1000+ Claims in the Quran - Invalid Unless Proven, Surah 32
18 May 2014
SURAH 32: As-Sajdah (The Prostration)
(Mecca 621 - 622 AD)
001 "In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful". Please read the surahs from Medina, the immoral parts of the Muslim moral code, the unjust/immoral parts of sharia, and the Quran's rules for lying, thieving/looting, enslaving, raids and wars, plus the rules for treatment of girls and women - free and captives - and see if you agree. Always when there is a distance between words and corresponding demands and deeds, we personally believe in the demands and deeds. Glorious words are cheap, demands and deeds are reliable. Glorifying words and claims are too cheap for anyone to use and disuse - when you read, judge from realities, not from propaganda.
002 32/2a: “(This is) the revelation of the Book (the Quran) - - -.” It is not a revelation from an omniscient god at least – too many mistakes. But perhaps from dark forces or humans? Actually we personally are skeptical to that it is made by dark forces like Iblis/the Devil, because even a devil would not make so many mistakes - he would be found out and loose credence sooner or later. This unless the god demanded it made like that to make it easy for humans to see and evade the trap. - or from an illness like TLE (Temporal Lobe Epilepsy) like modern medical science suspects? Or from a cold, scheming brain?
003 32/2c: “(This is) the revelation of the Book (the Quran*) in which there is no doubt - - -.” Because of the quality of the Quran, there is very much and very good reasons for doubt about its contents. What there is no doubt about, is that no god has been involved in the making or delivery of that book - not to mention reveres it in his "home".
004 32/2e: “- - - the Book (the Quran*) from the Lord (Allah*) of the Worlds (plural and wrong).” Wrong. No omniscient god makes a book with that many mistakes, etc., not to mention revere it in his “home” as the claimed "Mother Book" - see 13/39b above and 43/4 and 85/21-22 below.
005 32/2f: “- - - the Lord (Allah*) of the Worlds (plural and wrong).” Often claimed, never proved. It is not even proved that Allah is reality.
006 32/2g: “- - - the Lord (Allah*) of the Worlds (plural and wrong).” Contradicted by the Bible, which says Yahweh is the lord of the world, not Allah. Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.
007 32/2i: (YA3629): "By the time of the Prophet (Muhammad*) the earlier Book of Revelation (the Bible*) had been corrupted by human ignorance or selfishness or fraud, or misinterpreted or lost all together". The interesting point here is that the main statement - corrupted/falsification of the Bible - behind this sentence is not true (a fact thoroughly proved by both science and by Islam), and the same for the claim about lost, and all the same top Muslim writers treat it like a proved fact, this in spite of that the real facts are so well known, that there is no chance they are not aware of it (though perhaps they do not want to believe it). There were fringe sects - some of them quite big - who disagreed and debated and even made up apocryphal scriptures - just like in Islam later (f.x. made up Hadiths). The Quran may be looked on as a (very) apocryphal book split off from the Bible - and Islam an apocryphal sect. But the old scriptures lived on, and neither science nor Islam has ever found these proved corrupted or falsified. The oldest copies we know are just like today's ones, except for minor varieties which normally happens when books are copied by hand. These are well known facts. All the same Muslim scholars write things like this - and with a straight face. It tells something about Muslim scholars and about honesty within Islam.
Note that Jesus according to the Quran was a good Muslim, who read his books. This means for one thing that if his books were not a correct Quran, he could not be a good Muslim, and for another the prophet Jesus according to the Quran, received his Quran directly from Heaven - all prophets and messengers did so according to the Quran. It thus is impossible that the falsification happened before - Jesus in case had corrected it, and so had f.x. John. THIS MEANS THAT EVEN OT CANNOT HAVE BEEN FALCIFIED UNTIL AFTER THE YEAR 33 AD, IF THE QURAN TELLS THE TRUTH ABOUT JESUS. But science has good overview over the religions and the Bible from before the time of Jesus and up till today. No falsification is found. Islam will have to bring strong proofs to be believed.
There is another serious problem here: This is one of the main Islamic claims behind the claim that the Quran is the Truth (with capital letter), and f.x. the Bible untrue, even in cases where the Bible directly or indirectly is confirmed by science/history, BUT NOT ONE SINGLE TIME DID MUHAMMAD PROVE HIS WORDS, AND NOT ONE SINGLE TIME DID/DO LATER MUSLIMS OR ISLAM ITSELF PROVE THE CLAIMS. On the contrary: The fact that neither science nor Islam (who has tried even stronger) has been able to find neither even one proved case of falsification nor to give a believable explanation for how tens of thousands (likely at least 100OOO as some 44ooo scriptures and fragments still exist) of old relevant scriptures spread on 3 continents could be identically and without producing f.x. contradictions, and falsified in such clever ways that not even modern science is able to find traces from the falsifications in the old books and fragments - no scratching to remove old texts, no difference in what ink is used, no change in the hand-writing, the false texts needing just the same space as the one removed, etc. And also not one word about how the falsifiers made the owners agree to falsification of their holy scriptures. Not one word about how to make priests etc. change their preaching and teaching to confirm to the falsifications. Not to mention how to run such an enormous operation in and outside the entire "known world" without even one historian ever heard about it.
There only is one possible conclusion to make from these documented facts: The claim that the Bible is falsified is wrong. And one unavoidable consequence of such a fact, is that quite a number of point in the Quran - and thus in Islam - are wrong.
008 32/3c: "He (Muhammad*) has forged it (the Quran*)?" From the very beginning there have been persons who have seen there were reasons for doubt about the Quran's authenticity.
009 32/3d: “Nay, it (the Quran*) is the Truth - - -”. No. This is just a claim, not a proved truth. At best it is partly the truth - too many mistakes, contradictions, etc. Also see 2/2b and 13/1g above and 40/75 below..
010 32/3f: “- - - thou (Muhammad*) mayst admonish - - -". With a book full of errors, etc. and with a partly immoral moral code?
011 32/3h: "- - - in order that they (people*) may receive guidance (from the Quran*)". No-one receives real guidance from a book full of mistakes, etc.
012 32/4b: “It is Allah Who has created the heavens (plural and wrong*) and the earth, and all between them, in six Days - - -”. One simple and polite remark: Very wrong. And another: A contradiction to the verses in the Quran which tell 2 + 4 + 2 = 8 days.
41/9-12: These verses tell that Allah took 2 + 4 + 2 days = 8 days to create everything. (Muslims try to tell that the first 2 days are included in the 4 days, but just read this yourself and see – what they wish you to believe is not what the Quran says. It says very clearly 2 days for one job, 4 for the next, and 2 for the last = 8 days. Some also wants you to believe that day in Arab = eon. For one thing it is not a correct translation, and for another read 2/117 and see if Allah should need 6 – 8 eons.)
Also strongly contradicting science.
013 32/4d: "- - - firmly established Himself (Allah*) on the Throne (of authority) - - -". Contradicted by the Bible, which says Yahweh is placed there, not Allah. Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.
014 32/4e: “- - - ye (Muslims/people*) have none, besides Him (Allah*), to protect or intercede (for you) - - -.” But:
9/71: “The Believers, men and women, are protectors one of another - - -.” Men and women hardly are in the same league as a god – but they are protectors according to the Quran.
It also at least one place is said angels protect you.
And not least there is question about Yahweh - Jesus told he was a helper, at least for believers in Yahweh.
015 32/4f: "- - - will ye (Muslims/persons*) not receive admonition?" Admonition? - via a book so full of mistakes that it clearly is from no god?
016 32/5a: "He (Allah*) rules (all) affairs - - -". Contradicted by the Bible, which says it is Yahweh who does this, not Allah. Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.
017 32/6a: “- - - the Knower of all things (Allah*) - - -“. Something is seriously wrong: Allah is not the knower of all things if the Quran is representative for his knowledge.
018 32/6c: "(Allah is*) the Exalted (in power) - - -". At least he has never proved his power - in 1400 years.
019 32/6d: "(Allah is*) Merciful - - -". We are back to the old and obvious tirade: The surahs from Medina, the dark part of the Islamic codes of moral and ethics, the unjust paragraphs of the sharia laws - read them and see if you agree.
020 32/7b: “He (Allah*) Who made everything which He created most Good - - -“. Wrong. We could have had better resistance concerning illnesses, our bodies could have been able to make more of the vitamins themselves, our brain could have been better – f.x. ability to think about 2-3 things at a time, or learning more easily – just to mention a few points. Good, but far from most good. Contradicted by among others zoological facts.
021 32/9b: "But He (Allah*) fashioned him (Adam*) in due proportions, and breathed into him something of His spirit (= life*)." A bit different from what natural science says.
022 32/9c: "And He (Allah*) gave you (the faculties of) hearing and sight and feeling (and understanding) - - -". See 11/7a and 21/56c above.
023 32/9d: "- - - little thanks do ye (people*) give". Because of a very good reason: The way the beginning of man is described in the Quran cannot be true - at least not all the different ways it is claimed to have happened. (There is claimed to have been just one Adam, but there are given a dozen different explanations of how he was created.)
024 32/10c: “- - - a Creation renewed?” Muhammad told we are to be recreated bodily at the Day of Doom. He also argues that if Allah is able to create you from semen (and egg – though the egg cell was unknown to Muhammad and to the Quran) he is able to recreate you bodily after you have become dust and juices. May be – but there is a difference between to create the natural way, and to recreate against strong entropy (a word from physics which refers to chaos) – the logic therefore is lacking. Also see 7/258e above.
025 32/11c: "- - - then shall you be brought back to your (peoples') Lord (Allah*)". Often claimed, never proved - it is not even proved that Allah exists or that he is anybody's Lord at all.
026 32/12b: "- - - the guilty ones - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is relative to the book's own partly immoral moral code. Compared to the one and fundamental "constitution" of all inter-human moral and ethics, and of moral and ethical rules: "Do unto others like you want others do unto you", the Quran's - and thus Islam's - moral code is unethical and immoral a number of places, even horrible some places. (F.x. the best deeds were raids and wars in the name of Allah - most of them in reality for riches, slaves and power. Muslims defends this with that such behavior only is permitted during jihad - holy war. But that is no defense - doing it in the name of the god in reality makes stealing, rape, enslavement, torture, and murder, etc. even more despicable).
027 32/12d: "- - - righteousness - - -". See the remark to 32/12b above.
028 32/13a: “If We (Allah*) had so willed - - -". See 10/99 or 14/19d above.
029 32/13b: “If We (Allah*) had so willed, We could certainly have brought every soul its true guidance - - -”. This only could be true if Allah exists and is a god.
030 32/13c: “If We (Allah*) had so willed, We could certainly have brought every soul its true guidance - - -”. Not from the Quran - too many errors, etc. This also means Allah is no god and benevolent god - he could save numberless humans/souls from Hell, and did not do so.
031 32/13g: "- - - the Word from Me (Allah*) - - -". There never was proved there ever was a word from Allah - it even is an impossibility if he does not exist.
032 32/13h: "- - - the Word from Me (Allah*) will come true - - -". There never on this side of Adam was a proved case of Allah's word coming true, and definitely not a case where it provably came true as a result of Allah's decision or deed.
033 32/13i: "- - - Jinns - - -". Jinns are beings borrowed from Arab folklore and the earlier pagan Arab religion – according to Islam they are created by Allah from smokeless fire, whereas angles are created from light. They may be roughly shaped like humans as Islam have - or at least had - laws for marriage between jinns and humans. To our knowledge no such marriage has taken place till now.
"Jinn" often is translated with "spirit", but they have to be material beings - if not they could not marry humans, but more obvious: To feel the bodily pain of the fire in Hell, one has to have a body.
034 32/13j: “If We (Allah*) so willed, We could certainly have brought every soul its true guidance: but the Word from Me will come true, ‘I will fill Hell with Jinns and men all together’”. Here are two more differences between Yahweh and Allah:
Yahweh did not have this choice because man really had free will in his religion.
Yahweh tries to get as many as possible to Heaven (Luke 15/8-10 + 15/11-31 and Matt. 18/12-14 + 20/8/13). Allah has early made a conscious decision to fill Hell with "Jinns and men altogether".
The same god? Impossible.
035 32/13k: “If We (Allah*) so willed, We could certainly have brought every soul its true guidance: but the Word from Me will come true, ‘I will fill Hell with Jinns and men all together’”. Many Muslim scholars believe Allah is the real ruler also of Hell, as Iblis could not run it against the wish and will of Allah, as Allah is omnipotent. This verse indicates that this may be correct. What does it in case tell about Allah?
036 32/14c: "- - - the Penalty of Eternity for your (evil) deeds!" Beware that when the Quran uses expressions like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code. Remember that among the most evil deeds you could do, was and is to refuse to go to war to strengthen Islam, rob other people and give Muhammad his share, and suppress, enslave or kill fellow humans. Admittedly it is said that this only could be done in a jihad - holy war - and Muslims are very quick to say so. But as there hardly was one single armed conflict throughout these 1400 years where Muslims were one or other parts, which was not a jihad, this just becomes a meaningless excuse. And honestly; to do it in the name of one’s god, makes both the deed and the god more disgusting and immoral.
But also see 3/77b above.
037 32/14f: "- - - (evil) - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.
##038 32/15a: "Only those believe in Our (Allah's) Signs, who, when they are recited to them, fall down in adoration, and celebrate the praises of their Lord (Allah*) - - -". Pure demand for blind belief - remember that there does not exist one single "sign" inside or outside the Quran which clearly is from Allah or proves him. (Even the Muslim scholars of today admit it is impossible to prove Allah - this only Allah can do (like Yahweh did and like Jesus did by means of supernatural acts in the old times, if either the Bible or the Quran speaks the truth on those points)).
039 32/15d: "- - - nor are they (Muslims*) (ever) puffed up with pride". It is not difficult to debate this claim. Another claim which is indisputable, is that some of those you meet on the net, are puffed up with haughtiness, superiority complex and standard slander. Also the Arab Muslims during the first centuries reckoned themselves to be better than other Muslims, a fact which resulted in strife.
040 32/16b: "- - - the sustenance which We (Allah*) have bestowed on them (Muslims*)". Allah gives you everything - rather similar to 11/7a above. But is the claim true?
041 32/17d: "- - - a reward for their (good Muslims') (good) Deeds". If the Quran tells the full and only truth.
042 32/17e: "- - - (good) Deeds". Beware that when the Quran uses expressions like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.
#####043 32/18b: “Is then the man who believes (Muslim*) no better than the man who is rebellious and wicked (the non-Muslim*)? Not equal are they.” Muhammad forgets (?) to mention that there are many good humans also among non-Muslims - neither rebellious, nor wicked. "Forgotten" on purpose?
And what does this tell about who are haughty, etc.? - non-Muslims? - or Muslims? (A few years ago there was a serious debate in Pakistan: Did non-Muslims have half the value of Muslims? - or less?)
044 32/18c: “Is then the man who believes (Muslim*) no better than the man who is rebellious and wicked (the non-Muslim*)? Not equal are they.” But what about him who sees that many things are wrong in the Quran, and that thus the book cannot be from a god? - the seeing one is better than the blind one according to the Quran.
045 32/19a: "For those who believe and do righteous deeds are Gardens as hospitable homes, for their (good) deeds". If Allah exists. If he is behind the Quran. If the Quran tells the full truth and only the truth.
Also remember that the many and deep differences between Yahweh's Paradise and the one of Allah, are one of the really strong proofs for that those two are not the same god - if they had been, their Paradise had been one and the same.
046 32/19c: "- - - righteous - - -". See the remark to 32/12b above. Also beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.
047 32/19e: "- - - (good) deeds - - -". See the remark to 32/12b and 32/19c above, and remember especially that the best of all good deeds according to the Quran, is to make raids and wars for stealing and raping and killing and enslaving for Allah - - - and for Muhammad and his successors.
048 32/22a: “And who does more wrong than one to whom are recited the Signs of his Lord (Allah*), and who then turns therefrom?” There is nothing wrong in being skeptical to a religion built only on a book with many mistakes and not one single valid proof, but with many “signs” and “proofs” without any value or even 100% wrong, which may have the effect of cheating uneducated or not intelligent persons - and on top of all told only by a man whose honesty normal, intelligent people would suspect, because of the morality of his deeds and some of his words – when a man preaches good, but does and demands many things bad, we any day believe in his deeds and demands more than in his words.
049 32/22b: "- - - wrong - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.
050 32/22c: "- - - Signs of his Lord (Allah*) - - -". There does not exist one single sign in this world - inside or outside the Quran - clearly from Allah. Also see 2/39b above.
051 32/22d: "- - - his Lord (Allah*) - - -". Allah is the lord of no-one if he does not exist, and definitely not of followers of Yahweh if Yahweh exists.
But remember that if Allah in reality belongs to the dark forces - many points in the Quran may indicate this - he can be the lord of many.
052 32/22e: "Verily - - -". It definitely is no proved verity/truth. As so much is wrong in the Quran, few things can be deemed a verity unless there are additional proofs.
053 32/23a: "We (Allah*) did indeed aforetime give the Book to Moses - - -". According to the Bible, what was given to Moses, was given by Yahweh, not by Allah - the teachings of the two are too different to that the two can be the same god, no matter how strongly Islam claims this - without any documentation as normal for Islam. Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.
054 32/23e: (YA3656): "Moses had, revealed to him, a Law, a sharia (!*), which was to guide his people in all practical affairs of their life. Jesus, after him, was also inspired by Allah (by Yahweh according to the Bible*): but his Injil or Gospel contained only general principles and not a Code (here in the meaning Law) or sharia. The Prophet (Muhammad*) was the next one to have a sharia - - -". Partly this is very wrong - an al-Taqiyya made by Y.A. - many of the laws in the Books of Moses are specific and detailed and definitely as much of a code as what you find in the Quran, and they were used and included in his teaching by Jesus (except that he changed a number of them (especially of the many additions made as "explanations" by Jewish scholars), confirmed by the Quran in 3/50 + f.x. Matt. 15/11-20, Mark 7/14-19, and Acts 10/15 where f.x. food, animals, and humans and perhaps other unclean according to old Jewish laws, are declared clean). Besides: What the honorable Abdullah Yusuf Ali "fails" to mention is that the laws and rules in the Bible, and especially so the "general principles" given by Jesus, are so different - and so fundamentally different - from the ones in the Quran, that they are not from the same god, not unless he is mentally very ill.
Besides: Does it have any meaning religiously how laws for life on Earth bureaucratically, as long as they are complete? Jesus' laws were complete and to a degree detailed (as he confirmed some of the Laws of Moses + all the commandments). Muhammad's laws were detailed to a degree, but far from complete - look at all the laws and rules Islam has had to introduce in addition. In addition Jesus' laws are just and fair, whereas Muhammad's law partly is from unjust and unfair to very unjust and unfair. YA is boasting about a claimed nice dress, but forgetting(?) that what really counts, is the body.
055 32/23h: "- - - We (Allah) made it (the book Muhammad claimed Allah gave Moses*) a guide for the Children of Israel". There is little doubt that what became the guide for the Jews, was the laws which later was incorporated in the Torah. Laws which on some central points have little similarity to the Quran. Also - and at least as essential - the moral code behind the laws in the Bible - and especially the ones corrected or added by Jesus - also are very different. So different that combined with the fact that the Bible is proved not falsified by strong circumstantial and empirical and may be stronger proofs, this is one of the many proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - and for that Jesus and Muhammad was not in the same religion.
056 32/24d: "- - - guidance - - -". See 2/2b above.
057 32/26a: "Does it not teach them a lesson, how many generations We (Allah*) destroyed before them (people*) - - -". Allah is a good, benevolent and mild god, as you see. (But is the claim true?)
058 32/26c: “Does it not teach them (non-Muslims*) a lesson, how many generations We (Allah*) destroyed before them, in whose dwellings they now go to and fro? Verily, in that are Signs - - -”. This had been signs if it was clear that it really was Allah who had destroyed them.
059 32/26d: "Verily - - -". It definitely is no proved verity/truth. See 2/2b above.
060 32/26e: "- - - do they (skeptics*) not then listen?" They do, but they also are able to think and not just accept blindly - to see outside "taqlid". And using not only their ears, but also their knowledge and their brain, they see that much is wrong in the Quran and hence in Islam - and that the book cannot be from any god, as no omniscient god makes mistakes wholesale style.
061 32/27a: "And do they not see that We (Allah*) do drive the rain - - -". Once more a natural phenomenon claimed for Allah without the slightest proof - just like priests of pagan gods do as cheaply. A question: If the Quran is a made up book, is then Islam a pagan religion?
062 32/27b: "Have they (skeptics*) not the vision?" On the contrary - too many skeptics have vision instead of blind belief, and see that something is seriously wrong with the Quran, and that it thus cannot have come from a god.
063 32/30c: “So turn away from them and wait - - -.” As said just above: When Muhammad grew more powerful, there was little waiting. The rest of the Arabian peninsula mainly was turned Muslim by the sword – and some by “gifts” and promises of looted riches – all of which demanded changes in the religion (or was it the other way around, initiated by a god who found his original religion was not good enough – or too little blood and human tragedy?) which caused contradictions between the old and the new version of Islam – and also abrogations naturally. This verse is abrogated – made invalid - by at least these verses: 2/191, 2/193, 3/38, 3/85, 3/148, 4/90, 5/33, 5/72, 8/12, 8/38, 8/38-39 (the warning), 8/39, 8/60, 9/3, 9/5, 9/14, 9/23, 9/29, 9/33, 9/73, 9/123, 25/36, 25/52, 33/61, 33/73, 35/36, 47/4, 66/9. This includes many bloody threats, but also verses advising or permitting political, social, economical, etc. compulsion (with the sword in the background if you protest) – we mention a few here: 3/28, 3/85, 3/148, 4/81, 5/72, 5/73, 9/23, 14/7, 15/3, 33/73, 35/36. They are all quoted under 2/256 in "1000+ Mistakes in the Quran - www.1000mistakes.com . (At least 28 abrogations).
5371 + 63 = 5434 remarks.
Not formed like questions for proofs, but what needs to be proved normally easy to see all the same. And: References you do not find here, go to "1000+ Comments on the Quran".
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This work was upload with assistance of M. A. Khan, editor of islam-watch.org and the author of "Islamic Jihad: A Legacy of Forced Conversion, Imperialism, and Slavery".