1000+ Claims in the Quran - Invalid Unless Proven, Surah 25

 

SURAH 25: Al-Furkan (The Criterion)

(Mecca, 614-615 AD)

 

001  "In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful". Please read the surahs from Medina, the immoral parts of the Muslim moral code, the unjust/immoral parts of sharia, and the Quran's rules for lying, thieving/looting, enslaving, raids and wars, plus the rules for treatment of girls and women - free and captives - and see if you agree. Always when there is a distance between words and corresponding demands and deeds, we personally believe in the demands and deeds. Glorious words are cheap, demands and deeds are reliable. Glorifying words and claims are too cheap for anyone to use and disuse - when you read, judge from realities, not from propaganda.

002 25/1a: "Blessed is He (Allah*) who sent down the Criterion (the Quran*) - - -". No god sent down a book with this many mistakes, contradictions, cases of invalid logic, unclear language, etc., not to mention reveres it in his own "home" as the "mother book" (13/39, 43/4, 85/21-22). Besides Islam does not know for sure if "the Criterion" means the Quran (but he is not claimed by Islam to have sent down much more).

You meet the word Criterion a few times in the Quran. Nobody is quite sure what is meant. One likely guess is that it means "the difference between right and wrong", but it is a guess, not more.

003 25/1c: "- - - His (Allah's*) servant (Muhammad*) - - -". Can an omniscient god have had a servant giving his followers so much wrong information and facts? Simply no!

004 25/1d: "- - - an admonition to all creatures - - -". Admonition? - with that much of mistakes, contradictions, invalid logic, unclear language, immoral "moral" etc. - and clearly not from a god?005 25/2a: "To Him (Allah*) belongs the dominion of the heavens (plural and wrong*) and the earth - - -". This must be told a couple of dozen times in the Quran, but never documented - any priest in any religion can say the same as long as he can evade all questions for proof. Invalid claim.

####The Nazi minister of propaganda said that "if you repeat a lie often enough, people starts to believe it. But even if people believe something, that does not mean that it is true.

006 25/2d: “- - - no son has He (Allah*) begotten - - -”. If Allah is another god than Yahweh, this may be correct. If Islam insists Allah is just another name for Yahweh (which it cannot be, because too many fundamental aspects of the teachings are too different) it may be another question, as Jesus frequently called Yahweh his father in front of many witnesses. The word “Father” is used at least 204 times in the Bible for Yahweh’s relationship to Jesus, and “son” at least 89 times for Jesus’ relationship to Yahweh according to our last leafing through the Bible - and we still hardly have found all. Roughly half the times it is said by Jesus - a reliable and holy (19/19) person also according to the Quran. (Holy persons should not be able to lie.)

007 25/2f: "- - - it is He (Allah*) who created all things - - -". See 6/2b, 7/158i and 21/56c above.

008 25/3a: Made up gods are no good. But a reminder: Allah has never been proved to be any better or even to exist. Muhammad never had anything but undocumented claims to give to people. And Muhammad was a very dubious character according to claimed facts in central Islamic literature - far from the semi-saint Muslims like to claim.

009 25/3b: "- - - besides Him (Allah*) - - -". Mostly wrong - the correct mostly was and is "instead of him". By his choice of words, Muhammad pretends that also non-Muslims pray to Allah, but to other gods in addition. This is wrong. With few exceptions they prayed and pray only to their own god(s) - f.x. Yahweh. In Arabia in the old time this included f.x. al-Lah.

010 25/3c: "- - - gods that can create nothing - - -". Just this one we think is an interesting one, as Allah never proved his ability neither to create nor to recreate anything himself - there only are empty words and as empty claims.

011 25/3d: "- - - gods that can create nothing, but are themselves created; that have no control of hurt or good to themselves - - -". But the irony here is that the Quran here blames other gods for defects it is likely also Allah has - if he exists - as there is not one single known proved incident during all the time Homo Sapiens has existed on Earth, where Allah has done anything of this. A very good proof for this is Islam's silence about such proved cases. Claims yes, proved cases no.

012 25/4b: "But the Misbelievers say: "Naught is this but a lie which he (Muhammad*) has forged - - -". Already then some people saw that things might be seriously wrong - but Muhammad became military too strong. (Arabia to a large degree was won for Islam by the sword or by other methods backed by the sword (and not only Arabia)). We may add that there was a strong rumor that Muhammad had at least one helper who helped him make up or twist stories. At least one name of such a man was mentioned.

013 25/4d: “But the Misbelievers say: ’Naught is this but a lie which he has forged, and others have helped him at it.’" There was a persistent rumor that he had one or more helpers who helped him making up the stories and the religion - Arabs or foreigners. Even names were mentioned.

014 25/4e: “But the Misbelievers say: ’Naught is this but a lie which he has forged, and others have helped him at it.’ In truth it is they who have put forward an iniquity and a falsehood”. With this many mistakes in the Quran, it is a very open question if it is the misbelievers who have put forward a falsehood. It might even be Muhammad. The Quran at least is not from an omniscient god - too many mistakes, etc.

015 25/4g: "In truth it is they (the skeptics*) who have put forward an inequity and a falsehood". All the mistakes, contradictions, etc. in the Quran indicates - or stronger - that at least some of their suspicions were true.

016 25/4i: "- - - an iniquity and a falsehood". At least the skeptics were right when they said Muhammad told old stories - more or less all stories in the Quran were stories know in the old Arabia, just twisted some to fit Muhammad's new religion. No god would have to rely on old stories - and only local stories - even often with wrong facts. The skeptics also were right in that there could be no god behind the religion - no god ever was behind a claimed holy book that full of mistakes, etc.

017 25/5b: "And they (the Misbelievers*) say (to Muhammad*): 'Tales of the ancient'". See 25/4c above.

018 25/5c: "- - - tales of the ancient - - -". This is correct - more or less everything in the Quran is older tales Muhammad "borrowed" and then twisted some to adjust them for his new religion. No god would have needed to do this + if a god did need to do so, he had not taken only from in and around Arabia at the time of Muhammad, if he intended to make a book for all people and all times. Not to mention he had not made large quantities of mistakes, contradictions, invalid logic, unclear language, etc. in the book.

019 25/6a: “Say: ’The (Quran) was sent down by Him (Allah*) - - -”. Same old question: Can a book with hundreds of mistakes have been sent down by an omniscient god? - and if not: Who composed it? Not an omniscient Allah.

020 25/6b: “Say: ’The (Quran) was sent down by Him (Allah*) Who knows the Mystery (that is) in the heavens (plural and wrong*) and the earth - - -”. If Allah knows everything, then why 2/233h? - and why so much wrong in the Quran?

021 25/6e: "- - - He (Allah*) is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful". Not entirely so if he made the surahs from Medina, or the harsh part of Islam's (im)moral code, or the most unjust laws within sharia.

022 25/7e: "Why were not an angel sent down to him (Muhammad*) - - -". Muhammad was asked for proofs from very early from both followers and opponents. He never was able to prove anything. And in a way worse: Some of the "explanations" he used for evading the requests for proofs, so obviously were untrue, that an intelligent man like him knew he was lying.

023 25/7f: "- - - give admonition - - -". See 2/2b above.

024 25/8a: "Or (why) has not a treasure been bestowed on him (Muhammad*) - - -". See 25/7a above.

025 25/9a: "See what kind of companions they (the skeptics*) make for thee (Muhammad*)!" This refers to the - often named - helper(s) the skeptics told - right or wrong - Muhammad had to make the Quran.

026 25/9d: "But they (skeptics*) have gone astray - - -". But they also easily may have been right - see 25/8f above.

027 25/9e: "- - - never a way (to Paradise) will they (skeptics to Muhammad*) be able to find!" If Islam is a made up religion - f.x. by Muhammad partly inspired by an illness (see 25/8b above), not to mention if he was inspired by dark forces - the skeptics stand a better chance so find such a way if it exists, than any Muslim, Muhammad and al-Ghazali included. Because what is sure, is that the Quran with all its errors is not from any god - Allah or a baby one or any other. No omniscient god makes mistakes or contradictions, etc. and absolutely not by the hundreds and more.

028 25/10c: "Blessed is He (Allah*) Who - - - could give thee (people*) better (things) than those - - -". Often claimed, but there never was a proved case where Allah gave anything to anybody.

029 25/10g: "- - - (if it were his will*) He (Allah*) could give thee (Muslims*) Palaces - - -". See 14/19d and 25/10d above.

######030 25/11d: "We (Allah*) have prepared a Blazing Fire for such (non-Muslims*) - - -". Is this a slip of the tongue confirming that Allah also is the real master of Hell?

031 25/11e: "We (Allah*) have prepared a Blazing Fire (Hell*) for such (non-Muslims*) - - -". If he exists and in addition is either a god or a devil (dressed up like Gabriel, Muhammad would not have a chance to see the difference between the dressed up Iblis/the Devil and Gabriel - this even more so as he had never seen Gabriel before in case).

032 25/14: "This day plead not for a single destruction: plead for destruction oft-repeated”. According to Muhammad you in Hell get new skin as soon as one is burned through (which according to science will take something like 5 minutes), so that you will never get a release from the horrible pain - there are few pains worse or more intense than the pain from burns (the reason why the old pagans used fire in Hell when they first dreamt up a really sadistic Hell really long ago?). And because of the new skins, you will need/want to be destructed each time, so as to be released from the pain. One of the many, many never proved claims in the Quran.

033 25/15b: "- - - the eternal Garden, promised to the righteous?" But what is a promise in a book with so much wrong like in the Quran, and with all its mistakes not from a god, worth?

Also see 11/108c above.

034 25/16b: "- - - they (Muslims*) will dwell (there (in Paradise*)) for aye - - -". See 11/108c above.

035 25/16c: "- - - a promise - - -". But what is a promise worth in a book with so many errors as in the Quran? - and dictated by a man of doubtful moral believing in the use of al-Taqiyya (the lawful lie), Kitman (the lawful half-truth), etc., deceit ("War is deceit" and "everything" is Jihad), broken words/promises/oaths (2/225, 5/89, 16/91, 66/2)according to the Quran, and a man wanting power, riches for bribes - and women".

036 25/16d: "- - - a promise to be prayed for from thy (Muslims'*) Lord (Allah*)". But what is the use of praying if everything already is predestined like the Quran unequivocally claims MANY places? - predestined according to a Plan nobody and nothing can change!

037 25/17b: "The Day He (Allah*) will gather them (non-Muslims) together as well as those whom they worship (other gods*) besides Allah, He (Allah*) will ask (the other gods*) - - -". Wrong. Believers in other gods did not worship those gods in addition to Allah, but instead of Allah - they simply did not believe in or even know about Allah. But to say it like this, this choice of words made Allah more central and big. (There may with some twisting be said there was one exception: The old Arab chief pagan god al-Lah had a name so close to the name Allah, that even when non-Muslim Arabs talked about their old god al-Lah, Muslims could claim they said Allah - dishonest, but sometimes efficient in a debate - - - and Muhammad was not unknown to the use of dishonesty.

038 25/17d: "- - - stray from the Path - - -". As no book of a quality like the Quran is from a god, this may be a good idea - perhaps - if that meant that Jews and Christians instead strayed onto "the Narrow Road". ("The Narrow Road" is a Biblical expression for the road to (Yahweh's) Paradise).

039 25/18aa: "Glory to Thee (Allah*)". Read 1/1a above and see if you think he deserves it - if he exists.

040 25/18a: "- - - others (other gods*) besides Thee (Allah*) - - -". Muhammad very often chooses his(?) words in such a way that it sounds like everyone had Allah for a god, but that many had other gods in addition. (This claim makes Allah very big and central - but it only is a never documented claim.) The correct was and is that with the exception of Arabia where they had the pagan god al-Lah which Muhammad renamed a little and claimed was Allah, they had/have one or more god(s) not in addition to Allah but instead of Allah - f.x. Yahweh.

At it - twisting the truth some between pagan and monotheistic god - could be after a fashion correct and understood like that, this in reality is one more Arabism - and one you meet often in the Quran.

041 25/18c: "- - - until they (former Muslims*) forgot the Message - - -". The Quran claims that the religion of Islam has been taught to all people during all times, but that it has been forgotten or falsified, and that Islam and Muhammad meant the resurrection of the one and universal religion. The claim is wrong - neither science nor Islam have ever found traces of a religion even remotely connected to and similar to Islam (except the two connected to the Bible, and in spite of Islamic claims those two - and especially Christianity - are fundamentally so different on central points from the Quran, that they clearly never were like Islam. This even more so as the Islamic claim about falsified Bible also clearly is wrong, according to science and to Islam.) But never try to tell facts they do not like to strongly religious persons. They all the same believe only what they wish to believe, and bagatelles like facts or truth do not interest them at all.

042 25/18e: "- - - they (non-Muslims*) were a people (worthless and) lost". One of Muhammad's many repulsive descriptions of non-Muslims. But there is another aspect of this claim: What about Muslims if Allah is a made up god? - and even more so if there somewhere exists a real god they have been prohibited to look for (such prohibition is a fact in the Quran - logical if Allah f.x. is part of the dark forces).

043 25/18f: "- - - worthless - - -". Beware that Quran uses words like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.

044 25/19a: "Allah will say): 'Now they (the false gods*) have proved you (non-Muslims*) liars - - -". A not documented claim in a hypothetical speech in a book dictated by a morally very doubtful person liking power and riches - at least for bribes - and women. You are free to believe what you want.

045 25/19b: "- - - proved - - -". Why did an omniscient god need profs? - would the people not believe his words? Besides: "A proof is one of more proved facts which can give only one conclusion". How many Islamic (and Quranic) "proofs" build purely on proved facts? And in how many cases do Muslims pick one of two or more possible conclusions and then claime that: "This is a proof"?

Some other quotes about proofs and invalid or made up proofs:

"Strong claims need strong proofs.

"A claim without a proof may be dismissed without a proof".

"Claims are cheap, but only proofs are proofs".

"The use of invalid proofs normally proves that something is fishy".

"The cheat or deceiver naturally must rely on claims pretending to be facts or proofs".

"A made up "proof" makes the man very suspect".

"A strong belief is not a proof - not necessarily even a truth".

"Wrong claims and invalid "proofs" are working tools of the cheat".

"A student with correct facts gets a more correct answer than 20 professors with wrong facts". (Invalid, "signs", claims, "proofs", etc. of course are wrong facts.)

And we may add from Peer Gynt in his original language: "Naar utgangspunktet er som galest, blir resultatet tidt originalest" - freely translated: "When you conclude from wrong claims/wrong facts/invalid "proofs"/etc., you get wrong conclusions".

046 25/20a: “And the messengers whom We (Allah*) sent before thee, were all (men) - - -.”

Well: In that case these are wrong – or contradictions:

3/42: “Behold the angels (plural*) said (when they came to tell Mary she was going to have the baby Jesus*)”.

6/130: “O ye assembly of Jinns and men! Came there not unto you messengers (from Us, Allah*) from amongst you - - -.” A rhetoric question demanding the answer “yes” – yes, there came Jinn messengers from Allah to the Jinns, and human messenger from Allah to the humans.

11/69: “There came Our (Allah’s*) Messengers to Abraham - - -“. It is clear from the following verses that these messengers were angels.

11/77: “When Our (Allah’s*) Messengers (it is clear from the text they were angles – they f.x. ate no food*) came to Lut (Lot*) - - -.”

11/81: “(The Messengers (angels from Allah*)) said: O Lut (Lot*)! We are Messengers from thy Lord!”

19/17b: “- - - We (Allah*) sent to her our angel (singular – to tell Mary she was going to have the baby Jesus*), and he appeared before her as a man in all respects.”

19/19: “He (the angel*) said: ‘Nay, I am only a messenger from thy (Mary’s*) Lord - - -“.

22//75: “Allah chooses Messengers from both angels and from men - - -“.

There also is the fact that some of the prophets in the Bible (the Bible does not use the title messenger - all are named prophets or seers) were not men but women, f.x. Miriam (sister of Moses - 2.Mos. 15/20), and Huldah (2. Chr. 34/22). One more difference between the Bible and the Quran.

Well, 3/42 - 6/130 - 11/69 – 11/77 – 11/81– 19/17b – 19/19 – 22/75 all say that not all were men. A nice little contradiction to 12/109 – 16/43 – 21/7 – 25/20 which all says all messengers were men.

(8 - 9 contradictions).

047 25/20b: "- - - men who ate food and walked through the streets - - -". In the Quran this is used like proofs for that certain beings could not be angels. The logic is invalid, as if the god could give angels human bodies, he also could give them bodily functions. (Yahweh and the two angels who visited Abraham near Mamre, ate food according to the Bible - 1. Mos. 18/8).

048 25/20d: "For Allah is One Who sees (all things)". See 2/233h above.

049 25/21d: "Why are not angels sent down to us (people*) - - -". See 25/7e above.

050 25/21f: "- - - mighty is the insolence if their (non-Muslims'*) impiety". Not if the Quran is not from a god. And especially not if they in case also happened to believe in a real god - if such one exists.

051 25/21g: "- - - impiety - - -". = Not believing in Allah and Muhammad - every other belief is impiety, according to the Quran. Note strongly that you also have to believe in Muhammad - not any of the other 124ooo claimed prophets, but only Muhammad. Nice for Muhammad here on Earth.

052 25/22a: "The Day (of Doom*) they see the angels - no joy will there be to the sinners that Day - - -". It is indicated here and directly said at least one other place in the Quran that there will be no angels on Earth until the Day of Doom. But this is strongly contradicted by several places telling about much traffic of angels between the Heaven and Earth - sometimes they even are seen by humans. F.x. see 25/20a+b above.

053 25/23: "And We (Allah*) shall turn to whatever deeds they (non-Muslims/sinners*) did (in this life) - - -". According to the Quran your access to Paradise to a large degree will be decided by the balance between your good and bad deeds. But what about the fact that the Quran and Hadiths both state very clearly that Allah predestines everything, and thus also if also if you will be permitted to enter Paradise.

054 25/24c: “The Companions of the Garden will be well, that Day (of Doom*), in their abode, and have the fairest places for repose”. A good future – if true.

055 25/24d: "- - - (Muslims in Paradise will*) have the fairest of places for repose." - - - if the Quran tells the truth and only the truth. (Which is not the case).

056 25/25c: "- - - the heaven shall be rent asunder with clouds - - -". How do you rent asunder vacuum with clouds? - not to mention if you include the stars, planets, etc., and try to rent them asunder with clouds. Scientifically gobbledygookookook. (The word is wrongly spelled on purpose, to show that this "science" is even worse). Any god had known better - who made the Quran?

057 25/26h: "- - - Misbelievers - - -". One serious question: If Allah does not exist - and he only exists in the most clearly made up book "the Quran" - who are then the misbelievers? - this especially if there somewhere exists a god - f.x. Yahweh?

058 25/26-29: Punishment for the bad ones. See 3/77b above.

059 25/27c: "Oh! Would that I (non-Muslim*) had taken a (straight) path with the Messenger (Muhammad*)". Pep-talk for his followers - and a very ordinary kind of such.

060 25/27d: "- - - the (straight) path - - -". Is there a symbolism in the fact that in the Quran it is the easy road ("the straight pat") which leads to Paradise, whereas in the Bible it is the difficult one ("the narrow road" or "the narrow gate")? One possible answer is "populism contra reality", but several others are possible.

061 25/27e: "- - - the Messenger (Muhammad*)". No god would send a messenger to bring that much wrong information/facts like Muhammad did. And no good and benevolent god would use such a harsh and bloody and power hungry person like Muhammad.

062 25/29a: "He (non-Muslim*) did lead me (bad Muslim*) astray from the Message - - -". Bad if Allah exists, if he was involved in making the Quran, and if the Quran tells the full and only the truth. Good if not - this even if there are no other gods, as Islam is a primitive, inhuman and partly immoral religion, not only for the surroundings, but also for Muslims - with a possible exception for the leaders and some of the ones who stole themselves rich and/or powerful. (Perhaps also for some of the some 5-10% who need the belief in a god, #####but for them the effect is more or less the same no matter what god they believe in.)

063 25/29b: "- - - the Message (the Quran*) (of Allah) - - -". No god sent down the Quran - too much is wrong in that book".

#064 25/29c: "Satan is but a traitor to man". Correct according to any main religion - but was he involved in the making of the Quran? (This is one of the theories about who made the Quran.) Personally we are reluctant to believe so, as not even a devil would make a book where so much is wrong - he had to know he would be found out and the book loose credence sooner or later. But there is one possibility: May be he got permission from the god to use also this way - making the Quran - to lead people astray, but on the condition that it should be so badly done that intelligent persons had a real chance to see through the deception. To be flippant: Perhaps the god did not want too many stupid persons or persons unable to use their brain into his Paradise?

065 25/30b: "- - - the Messenger - - -". No god would send a messenger to bring that much wrong information/facts like Muhammad did. And no good and benevolent god would use such a harsh and bloody and power hungry person like Muhammad.

066 25/30e: "Truly my (Muhammad's*) people took the Quran for just foolish nonsense". It may look like they were at least partly right - much is wrong in the book.

#067 25/32e: "Why is not the Quran revealed to him (Muhammad*) all at once?)" If there had really been a god behind the book, there had been big pluses with revealing all at once - now f.x. believers had to wait up to 23 years for verses. If it on the other hand was f.x. Muhammad who made the verses, it is much easier to understand why it came little by little when new situations emerged. It also is much easier to understand all the trying and failing, and the sudden and marked change in the religion from rather peaceful to a robber baron and war religion around 622 - 624 AD. The explanation given in this verse, simply and obviously is an explanation of convenience.

068 25/33a: "And no question do they (people*) bring thee (Muhammad*) but We (Allah*) reveal to thee the truth and the best explanation (thereof)". But always afterwards, instead of before, so that problems could have been evaded - - - and not until after Muhammad was aware of that there was a problem (a coincidence?) Also see 25/32g just above.

And as bad: Far from always the texts are true. Just see www.1000mistakes.com, or "1000+ Mistakes in the Quran" on Amazon (our Book A).

069 25/33b: “- - - We (Allah*) reveal to thee (Muhammad or the Muslims*) - - -”. Did a god reveal a book with that many mistakes, contradictions, loose statements and invalid “signs” and “proofs”? No.

070 25/33d: “- - - We (Allah) reveal to thee (Muhammad or the Muslims) the truth and the best explanations (thereof).” The best explanations are never - never - built on a lot of mistaken facts. The Quran also many places states that belief in Islam is built on intelligence, intellectual capacity, and knowledge. Is it?

Sometimes it seems like it is built on sheer blind belief and suppression of the true facts. (“The Message of the Quran” even tells that it is primitive not to be able to see that the Quran is made of a god, without any proofs - and another place that it is a no good believer who search for real proofs. The sorry truth is that it is primitive and naïve and a sure way to sooner or later be cheated, to believe only because something is said or written. Words are cheap.)

A book with lots of mistakes, contradictions, unclear language (f.x. "different ways of reading", twisted arguments, as twisted logic, and dictated by a man of very suspect morality, defending and enlarging his platform of power – his self-proclaimed religion – is no reliable guidance and of suspected truth. More proofs are strongly needed to make this believable.

071 25/34c: "- - - as to Path, most astray (to Hell)". Yes, but as the Quran is not from a god, this "guide-book" is wrong, and perhaps this path "most astray" does not really lead to Hell, at least not for all. But what about the Quran's path not from a god?

072 25/36a: “’Go ye both (Moses and Aaron - remember that Islam claims Allah is the same god as Yahweh - what Yahweh did, consequently Allah did*), to the people (the people of Egypt*) who have rejected our Signs’. And those (people) We destroyed with utter destruction”. Some more mass murder. Besides it was not the people of Egypt who were destroyed, only a part of their army. As the book is not from any god, also its path is not from any god.

073 25/36c: "- - - the people (the Egyptians*) who have rejected our (Allah's*) Signs - - -". This is not a motif or even mentioned in the Bible.

074 25/39a: "- - - and each one ('Ad, Thamud, the Rass*) We (Allah*) broke to utter annihilation (for their sins)". There were ruins and there were folk tales about former tribes in and around Arabia. Muhammad claimed they were all from people destroyed because of sins against Allah. Science points to other possibilities in a harsh and warlike area.

075 25/41c: "Is this (Muhammad*) the one whom Allah has sent as a messenger?" May well be Allah if he exists sent him, but in that case Allah neither was an omniscient god, nor a good or benevolent god. Too many mistakes in his teaching, too much hate and blood and stealing and inhumanities - simply a primitive, uneducated war god with a war religion in case.

076 25/42b: "He (Muhammad*) indeed would well-nigh have misled us from our (non-Muslims*) gods - - -". If Yahweh exists, at least the Jews and the few Christians spoke the truth - and even more so if Allah and his(?) Quran in addition are made up.

#077 25/42d: "- - - who is most mislead in the Path!" As the Quran with all its errors is from no god, this is a very open question. But there is a chance that "the narrow road" of Jesus is real. And if all religions are made up - which is not unlikely as no gods show their existence - the war and suppression religion Islam is one of the most inhuman ones, whereas Christianity like it is described in NT (do not protest until you have read the NT) and Buddhism likely are the most human ones, at least of the big religions, and thus alternatives for the ones needing or unable to give in the "higher spheres". Islam is the only of the big religions which itself (in the Quran) really proves things are seriously wrong with the religion, as all the mistakes in a book pretended made/sent down by a god, proves it is from no god.

078 25/43a: “Seest thou (Muhammad/Muslim*) such a one (non-Muslim*) as taketh for his god his own passion (or impulse)?" Muhammad took good care of his 2 passions: Power and women. And riches - mainly for bribes and some for women (a harem cost money - houses, clothes, food, etc. - and Muhammad had many women). And none of these two main passions Muhammad had, do you find with Jesus. Also on each of these two-three central non-religious points the two were so totally different that it tells a lot.

079 25/43b: “Seest thou (Muhammad/Muslim*) such a one (non-Muslim*) as taketh for his god his own passion (or impulse)? Couldst thou be a disposer of affairs for him?” Of course not - no good Muslim could do so. Or - - -? Muhammad did his outmost to live out both of his two main passions - the passion for respect and power and the passion for women.

080 25/44a: "- - - most of them (non-Muslims*) listen or understand?" That very obviously was what a lot of them did - and understood that something was very wrong - that was why all those Jews preferred flight or death to believing Muhammad.

081 25/44d: "- - - they (non-Muslims*) are worse astray in the Path". See 25/42d above.

082 25/44e: "- - - astray - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.

#083 25/45b: “If he (Allah*) willed - - -". Sayings like “If Allah willed - - -” are frequent in the Quran. The phrases are typical for some ones who have to boast to gloss over that they are not able to prove themselves - you f.x. often hear it from half bully children trying to impress others. If that is what is the case in the Quran, it is either Allah or Muhammad who frequently has to boast like that. Also see 14/19d above.

#084 25/45c: “If he (Allah*) willed, he could make it (the shadows) stationary!” The only way to do that is to stop the Earth spinning. Islam will have to prove that Allah is able to do that - especially since all the mistakes and all the "if Allah willed - - -" in the Quran give serious and reasonable doubt about if he is omnipotent - and omniscient (or if he at all exists).

085 25/46: "Then We (Allah*) draw it (the shadows*) in towards Ourselves - - -". Shadows are lack of (sun)light. How do you pull lack of something? Also see25/45a above.

086 25/47b: "And He (Allah*)is it Who makes the Night as a Robe for you, and Sleep as Repose, and makes the Day (as it were) a Resurrection". See 11/7a above.

087 25/48a: "And it is He (Allah*) Who sends the Winds as heralds of glad tidings (rain*) - - -". For one thing rain is not automatically glad tidings except in the dry parts of the world - would not a universal god use an example which was a glad tiding everywhere? But for another and more serious thing: This is one more of the very many natural phenomena any priest in any religion can claim for his god(s) free of charge as long as he does not have to prove anything - just like Muhammad does time and again and again and again, without proving anything at all. It has exactly no value as an indication, not to mention as a proof for Allah, which is what is indicated many places in the Quran. Also see 11/7a above. (Also science has another explanation.)

088 25/49b: “- - - with it (water*), We (Allah*) may give life to a dead land - - -“. If all it takes to awaken the nature is water, the land is not dead, but alive with roots and seeds – it only looks dead. Also see 11/7a above.

089 25/49c: "- - - things We (Allah*) have created - - -". Often claimed, never documented.

090 25/50b: "- - - most men are averse (to aught) but (rank) ingratitude". It is not ingratitude not to thank Allah, if he did not do the job - and nothing about neither his existence, nor about his job was ever documented.

091 25/51b: “Had it been Our (Allah’s*) Will, We could have sent a warner to every centre of population”. If he had been able to do so, he had saved billions of humans from going to Hell - if Islam tells the truth. Benevolence? Malevolence? Or inability to produce anything but the words? Or a dishonest populist claim?

###092 25/52a: “Therefore listen not to the Unbelievers, but strive against them with the utmost strenuousness, with the (Quran)”. As you see: Religious mildness ("- - - no compulsion - - -) is not included when you strive against the “infidels”. This verse contradicts (and abrogates) at least these verses (here are 88 out of the 124 Muslim scholars say are abrogated by 9/5): 2/109, 2/190, 2/256, 2/272, 3/20, 4/62, 4/81, 4/90, 5/3, 5/28, 5/48, 5/99, 6/60, 6/66, 6/70, 6/104, 6/107, 6/112, 6/158, 7/87, 7/188, 7/193, 7/199, 8/61, 9/68, 10/41, 10/99, 10/102, 10/108, 11/12, 11/121, 13/40, 15/3, 15/94, 16/35, 16/82, 16/125, 16/126, 16/127, 17/54, 18/29, 18/56, 19/39, 20/130, 21/107, 21/112, 22/49, 22/68, 23/54, 23/96, 24/54, 26/216, 27/92, 28/50, 28/55, 29/18, 29/46, 32/30, 34/25, 34/28, 35/23, 35/24a, 36/17, 39/41, 41/34, 42/6, 42/15, 42/48, 43/83, 43/89, 44/59, 45/14, 46/9, 46/135a, 46/135b, 46/135b, 50/39, 50/45, 51/50-51, 51/54, 52/45, 52/47, 53/29, 67/26, 73/10, 73/11, 79/45, 86/17, 88/22, 109/6. They are all quoted under 9/5. (At least 91 contradictions).

093 25/52b: "- - - with the (Quran)". We quote YA3110: "The distribution of Allah's Signs (we here remind you that in all history and the entire world there never was a sign really proving Allah*) being universal, the Prophet of Allah pays no heed to carping critics who reject Faith (= Islam*). He wages the biggest Jihad (holy war*) of all, with the weapons of Allah's Revelation". As you perhaps remember the Jihad means that any weapon and any strategy of war - included dishonesty, deceit, betrayal, and broken oaths - are permitted. Everything as long as you win over the opposition/the non-Muslims. (Rather different from Jesus and NT to say the least of it - the same gods and religion and the same line of prophets? You bet!)

094 25/54a : “It is He (Allah*) Who created man from water - - -.” One thing which is absolutely sure, is that man is not made from water. And a wider truth: It is likely life started in water, but not created from water - in this case there is a huge difference between "in" and "from". Another thing which is as sure, is that Muhammad has made a lot of contradiction in his tales about how man – and the rest, too – was created.

This is contradicted by 6/2, 7/12, 17/61, 32/7, 38/71, and 38/76 that tell man/Adam was made from clay, 15/26, 15/26, and 15/33 that tell man/Adam was made from sounding clay, 55/14 that tells man/Adam was made from ringing clay, 37/11 that tells man/Adam was made from sticky clay, 23/12, that tells man/Adam was made from essence of clay, 15/26, 15/28, and 15/33 that tells man/Adam was made from mud, 3/59, 22/5, 35/11, 40/67, that tell man/Adam was made from dust, 20/55 that tells man/Adam was made from earth, 96/2 that tells man/Adam was made from a clot of congealed blood, 16/4, 75/37, 76/2, 80/19, that tell man/Adam was made from semen (without explaining from where the semen came), 70/39 that tells man/Adam was made from “base material”. (Also see verse 6/2 in the chapter about the 1000+ mistakes in the Quran.) (Strictly reckoned this contradicts 28 other verses.)

095 25/55a: "Yet do they (non-Muslims*) worship, besides Allah, things that can neither profit them nor harm them - - -". The trouble is that also Allah has not one single time clearly and unmistakably shown that he can do any better. Not one single time. There only are Muhammad's claims for the power of Allah - and neither Muhammad (al-Taqiyya, Kitman, etc., "War is deceit", broken words/promises/oats) nor the Quran is much reliable .

Another point is that non-Muslims do not worship another god/other gods besides Allah, but instead of Allah - non-Muslims simply do not believe Allah at all is a god.

096 25/55b: "- - - (other gods*) besides Allah - - -". See 25/18a above.

##097 25/55d: "- - - the Misbeliever - - -". Who is a misbeliever and who not, will depend on who believe in a real god and who in one or more made up ones. Islam is in a weak position here, at it is proved beyond both reasonable and unreasonable doubts (but not beyond religious blindness, brainwashing, and wishful thinking - that is impossible) that its claimed holy book has no connection to a god - no god makes that many mistakes, contradictions, etc.

098 25/56b: "But thee (Muhammad*) We (Allah*) only sent - - -". No benevolent, omniscient god sent a man preaching so many mistaken facts and other mistakes, and so much hate, blood, and injustice like Muhammad.

#099 25/56c: “- - - glad tidings (the Quran*) - - -“. Wrong. At the very best one can say that the Quran brought some glad tidings to all the bad ones, wanting loot and slaves, and among some longing for a strong religion - - - if it was not because the Quran itself proves 100% that something is very wrong in the book. So wrong that it neither can be made nor revered by any god – not even by a small mini god. Too much is wrong in the book. And a "holy" book not connected to a god, also is not "glad tidings".

100 25/56d: "- - - admonition". Admonition from a book full of errors, immoral moral and ethical rules, no compassion or empathy except with some of your nearest, etc.?

###101 25/57a: “No reward do I (Muhammad*) ask of you - - -“. Nothing - - - except 20% of everything stolen or extorted in/after raids and wars, 100% of what was looted or extorted without fighting, plenty of women and total and unrestricted power. And 2.5% (up to 10%) of your possessions each year in “poor-tax” - - - partly for the poor, but also at least as partly to pay the lukewarm to become or stay Muslims, and not to forget to use for waging war. And a little to himself and all his women and few children (may be not of the "poor-tax", but plenty from the looting - Muhammad f.x. had estates 3 different places (Medina, Khaybar and Fadang), something which is never mentioned by Muslims, when they talk about how poor he was personally). Hypocrisy.

####To be exact the "poor-tax" - zakat - according to Hadiths after Al-Bukhari (comment 1 to Chapter 24) is for 8-9 different purposes:

1. Help the "Fuqara" - a category of poor people.

2. Help the "Al-Masakin" - another category of poor people. (These two points = the purpose of helping the poor. Lump them together, and you get 8 purposes.)

3. Paying the persons administrating the zakat.(Originally Muhammad).

4. Bribing people to become Muslims and in other ways to promote Islam.

5. Bribing lukewarm Muslims to stay Muslims.

6. To free Muslim captives.

7. To help indebted persons.

8. To wage war for the religion - and for its leader(s).

9. To assist travelers (often pilgrims to Mecca).

It seems that a sizable percentage was used for points 4, 5, and 8. (You also will find claims that there are 5 purposes for the zakat. Then they lump 1 and 2 together and omit something - often 6 and 8. We some places have used such a list.)

102 25/57c: "- - - a (straight) Path to his (Muslim's*) Lord (Allah*)". The road to the Quran's and Islam's paradise. See 10/9f above.

103 25/58a: "- - - put thy (Muslim's*) trust in Him (Allah*) - - -". Rather risky as long as he has not left one single proved indication for that he even exists. Let alone how risky it is if he is powerful and belongs to the dark forces.

104 25/58b: "- - - Him (Allah*) Who lives - - -". This only is true if he exists.

105 25/58c: "- - - celebrate His (Allah's*) praise - - -". Read 1/1a above and see if he deserves it - - - if he exists.

106 25/58d: "- - - and enough is He (Allah*) to be acquainted with the faults of His servants (Muslims/humans*) - - -". = Allah knows everything. See 2/233h above.

#107 25/59a: “He (Allah*) Who created the heavens (plural and wrong) and the earth and all that is between, in six days - - -”. Wrong. It took 4.6 billion years to create the Earth like it is today. (Actually the latest numbers are 4.567 billion - and for the Universe/heaven 13.7 billion). Even in the Quran you can find contradicting information saying it took 2 + 4 + 2 days = 8 days:

41/9-12: These verses tell that Allah took 2 + 4 + 2 days = 8 days to create everything. (Muslims tries to tell that the first 2 days are included in the 4 days, but just read this yourself and see – what they wish you to believe is not what the Quran says. It says very clearly 2 days for one job, 4 for the next, and 2 for the last = 8 days. Some also wants you to believe that "day" in Arab = eon. For one thing it is not a correct translation, and for another read 2/117 and see if Allah should need 6 – 8 eons.)

108 25/60d: "- - - the Truth (the Quran*) - - -". Wrong. That the Quran is the truth, is just a claim, not a proved fact. With that many mistakes, etc., the Quran at best is partly true. Also see 13/1g and 40/75 above.

109 25/61: "- - - He (Allah*) who made the constellations in the skies, and placed therein a Lamp (the sun*) and a Moon giving light." See f.x. 11/7a or 24/44a+c above.

110 25/62b: "- - - for such as have the will to celebrate His (Allah's*) praises or to show their gratitude". This sentence gives no meaning in this context. Muslims try different "explanations", but we have seen no good one.

111 25/62d: "- - - celebrate His (Allah's*) praise - - -". See 1/1a above and think over if he deserves it - if he exists.

112 25/62e: "- - - show their (Muslims'*) gratitude". What for as long as everything just is lose words and as loose claims from a man believing in the use of dishonesty - even broken oaths - and liking power, riches for bribes for more power - and women?

113 25/63b: "- - - when the ignorant (non-Muslims*) address them (Muslims*), they (Muslims*) say, 'Peace'". They may have done so in 615 - 616 AD when this surah was made. Islam still was weak. When it became stronger, the words more were "become Muslim or fight us and die" - large parts of Arabia and further were forced to change religion. "Let there be no compulsion in religion"?!

114 25/63d: "- - - the ignorant - - -". Who is really the ignorant? - the one who knows nothing? - the one who knows enough to see that things may be seriously wrong? - or the one who is strong as iron in his belief in something which is wrong?

115 25/63e: "- - - ignorant - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is meant concerning religious knowledge, and only Islam and related subjects. Only such knowledge is of any interest to Islam.

116 25/67a: "Those (Muslims*) who, when they spend, are not extravagant and not niggardly - - -". Muslims - this is the economical ideal for charity according to the Quran. A bit different from NT's widow and her small coins (f.x. Luke 3-4). Jesus and Muhammad lived in different religions and according to different moral codes.

117 25/67b: "Those (Muslims*) who, when they spend, are not extravagant and not niggardly(included in charity*), but hold a just (balance) between those (extremes) - - -". This - "the Middle Way" is the ideal of the Buddhists. The Arab tradesmen had connections with India and perhaps already then even with China. India was partly Buddhist (like China) until Muslims later killed the Buddhist monks and lots - to say the least of it - of other Buddhists and mostly finished off Buddhism in India by means of the sword - the famous "Let there be no compulsion in religion". Can Muhammad have got this idea from Buddhism? And another thing: This is the Muslim ideal about f.x. charity. The Christian ideal is the old widow and the small coins (she was the best, because she gave everything she owned - Mark 12/44). The same god making these ideals? Definitely no.

118 25/68b: "- - - invoke not, with Allah, any other god - - -". See 2/255a and 25/18a above.

119 25/68c: "- - - nor slay such life as Allah has made sacred except for just cause - - -". From the 10 Commandments: "You shall not Kill". There is a deep difference between these two sentences. The same god? Guess!

120 25/70d: "- - - Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful". Please read the surahs from Medina + the most unjust ones of the sharia laws, and see if you agree. Honestly, when there is a difference between what someone says and what he/she demands or does, we always believe the demands and the deeds - words are too cheap in comparison.

##We may add that the Quran many places talks about natural phenomena, and says Allah makes it or causes it. This needs solid proofs just like claims about mercy etc., as it is things that happens by itself from physical laws - and especially since words and statements are very cheap, and even more so AS ANY PRIEST IN ANY RELIGION CAN SAY JUST THE SAME ABOUT HIS GOD(S) FREE OF CHARGE - words are that cheap. Strong claims demand strong proofs, scientists say, and Muhammad did not prove one single of these statements or claims. Not one single.

121 25/74b: “And those who pray - - ". But what is the idea of praying, when Allah predestines everything according to his Plan - a Plan nobody or nothing can change? If this statement is true, all prayers are wasted time, as Allah already has decided what is going to happen.

As for the value of prayers in Islam, also see 62/9c. And if you combine 62/9c with 67/9c - a strong one - you get something thought-provoking. (And relevant here: Muslims often are taught that a question or problem can have 2 or more true and correct solutions - Islam is forced to teach this, because if not, many of the mistakes and contradictions in the Quran become too obvious. But this ONLY is true if parallel true solutions are possible. In cases where 2 or more possible solutions are mutually excluding each other, maximum 1 of the mutually excluding ones can be true. It should be a bit thought provoking for Muslims, that just this "small" difference in theoretical thinking and teaching, was one of the reasons (there were several of course) for why Europe and the West exploded into the Technical Revolution, while the Muslim area stagnated). Two star examples are: 1) Full predestination is not possible even for an omnipotent god to combine with even the smallest piece of free will for man - the two are mutually excluding. The same for full and unchangeable predestination long time before, combined with any claimed effect of f.x. prayers - the two are mutually excluding each other.)

122 25/74d: “O Lord (Allah*)! Grant unto us wives and offspring who will be the comfort to our eyes, and give us (the grace) to lead the righteous.” "I" pray for good things and reputation for myself, not primarily for a good life for the child, here in the Quran. The only person in the centre for the Quran's interest – except Muhammad – is the man - the actual or potential warrior. And women are secondary humans - for the pleasure and convenience of the man. Islam is a religion mainly for half the humanity - the men.

123 25/75a: "Those (the good Muslims*) are the ones who will be rewarded with the highest place in Heaven." If the Quran tells the full and only truth. If it is from a god. And if Allah exists and is a god.

124 25/75b: "- - - the highest place in heaven - - -". In the Islamic Heaven there are many levels. As far as we understand the common people - medium good Muslims - stay in the lowest heaven, whereas the higher heavens are shared among extra good Muslims, and the better Muslim the higher heaven and the nearer Allah. A somewhat good Muslim like Jesus ends in 2. heaven f.x. (he is the main competitor to Muhammad and has to be reduced - 19/19 confirms that Jesus was holy, something Muhammad was not, but all the same Muhammad wanted to be the greatest), whereas the thief/robber, womanizer, rapist, enslaver, murderer, liar, deceiver (all according to the Quran, Hadiths, etc.) and a lot more, Muhammad, of course ends in the 7. and best heaven. Also the 1. heaven is split in good, better, best - at least 4 "gardens", may be 6 or more. Different from f.x. the Christian one to say the least of it. The same god do you believe?

125 25/76: "Dwelling therein (Paradise) - how beautiful an abode and place to rest!" The Quran's and Islam's paradise is like a high quality earthly king's palace in a place with nice climate and plenty of women. So different from Yahweh's that it is one of the 100% proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god. If they had been, they had had the same Paradise. See 10/9f above.

126 25/77b: "- - - if ye (non-Muslims*) call not on Him (Allah*) - - -". But what would be the idea of calling on him, when everything all the same is predestined according to many places in the Quran? And when one does not believe he exists, because the Quran is so full of errors that there is no god behind it?

127 25/77d: "- - - the inevitable (punishment)!" See 3/77b above.

4515 + 127 = 4642 remarks.

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Not formed like questions for proofs, but what needs to be proved normally easy to see all the same. And: References you do not find here, go to "1000+ Comments on the Quran".


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