1000+ Claims in the Quran - Invalid Unless Proven, Surah 22
18 May 2014
SURAH 22: AL-HAJJ (The Pilgrimage)
(~616 AD. Verses 39 & 49 - 622 AD, maybe some verses 624 AD)
001 "In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful". Please read the surahs from Medina, the immoral parts of the Muslim moral code, the unjust/immoral parts of sharia, and the Quran's rules for lying, thieving/looting, enslaving, raids and wars, plus the rules for treatment of girls and women - free and captives - and see if you agree. Always when there is a distance between words and corresponding demands and deeds, we personally believe in the demands and deeds. Glorious words are cheap, demands and deeds are reliable. Glorifying words and claims are too cheap for anyone to use and disuse - when you read, judge from realities, not from propaganda.
002 22/1a: "O Mankind! Fear your Lord (Allah*)!" Muhammad claimed Allah was the god of the entire world. At present he is the nominal god - existing or not existing - for roughly 20% or a bit more of the world's population (the actual number is very uncertain, but some 1.2 billion, INCLUDED THE IN REALITY NONRELIGIOUS ONES AND THE ONES NOT RISING OFFICIALLY TO LEAVE THE RELIGION BECAUSE OF FEAR OF THE CONSEQUENCES). But the number is increasing, partly because of active proselytizing (and at the same time hinder or forbid proselytizing for other religions or even for telling facts about the Quran or Muhammad in their own countries), and partly because Muslims produce many children - even in modern times when it has become clear that the production of food and other necessities are reaching limits (unless science makes new breakthroughs, but no such ones are expected shortly). On opposing tendency, though, is that 3 generation emigrants into other cultures seems to a degree to lose faith – but this possible tendency is not 100% proved yet.
We have seen numbers indicating that the number of Muslims - included the not really believing ones - has increased by 264% from 1950 till 2013. This in case indicates that Islam has not spread much, because it roughly is "on par" with Muslim childbirths those years - Muslims often get many children.
003 22/2c: "- - - dreadful will be the Wrath of Allah". If he exists and is a god - or something from the dark forces.
004 22/3a: "Yet among men there are such as dispute about Allah". Already then - this was approximately 616 AD - many saw that something was very wrong in Muhammad’s new religion. (But later most of them were silenced - some by Muhammad's growing military power, some by honest belief, some by their lust for joining the Muslims in looting, enslaving, rape, etc., and some because of pressure or threats or terrorism.)
005 22/3c: "(Some*) - - - dispute Allah, without knowledge - - -". The reason why many of them disputed, was just that many had knowledge and saw something was seriously wrong. But this was better psychology and propaganda.
006 22/3d: "- - - without knowledge - - -". What is best - no knowledge or wrong knowledge? - no god was involved in making or sending down the Quran: Far too many mistakes and worse.
007 22/4a: ""About (Satan) it is decreed that whoever turns to him for friendship, he will lead astray - - -". And by Muslim definition all non-Muslims follow Satan - perhaps with the exception of a small minority of religious Jews and Christians. The mainly Christian USA f.x. is "the Great Satan" to many Muslims. It will be quite an irony if it once turns out that Allah belongs to the dark forces - and the big distance between the ethical and moral rules of the Quran, compared to "do unto others like you want others to do unto you" may indicate something.
008 22/5a: "If ye (people*) have a doubt about the resurrection, (consider) that We (Allah*) created you - - -". This is typical debate from Muhammad: He takes a never proved claim - that Allah created man, etc. - and tries to use this as a proof for Allah's ability to recreate. The argument is totally without any value as long as Islam does not prove that Allah really created "you". The correct, but impolite word is "bluff" as long as absolutely nothing of any consequence in the entire religion is proved. Also see 6/2b, 7/158i, and 11/7a above.
Also for another reason this argument for Allah's power to recreate is invalid: Bodily recreation - and especially after the body has decomposed and the soft parts disappeared - goes against both nature and the entropy. This is unlikely more difficult than to use nature to create a new human - even if you are good at painting walls, this is not a proof for your ability to paint a new "Mona Lisa".
009 22/5d: “- - - We (Allah*) created you (man*) out of dust, then out of sperm - - -“. Allah created man/Adam out of dust and later humans out of sperm (+ an egg cell each – which Muhammad did not know anything about – but a god had known). But even omitting the fact that Adam never was, as man developed from earlier primates, there are a number of contradictions in the Quran about his creation: This is contradicted by 6/2, 7/12, 17/61, 32/7, 38/71, and 38/76 that tell man/Adam was made from clay, 15/26, 15/26, and 15/33 that tell man/Adam was made from sounding clay, 55/14 that tells man/Adam was made from ringing clay, 37/11 that tells man/Adam was made from sticky clay, 23/12, that tell man/Adam was made from essence of clay, 15/26, 15/28, and 15/33 that tell man/Adam was made from mud, 20/55 that tells man/Adam was made from earth, 96/2 that tells man/Adam was made from a clot of congealed blood, 16/4, 75/37, 76/2, 80/19, that tell man/Adam was made from semen (without explaining from where the semen came), 21/30, 24/45, and 25/54 that tell man/Adam was made from water (NB! NB! Not in water, but from water!), 70/39 that tells man/Adam was made from “base material”. (Also see verse 6/2.) (Strictly reckoned this contradicts 27 other verses. But minimum 11 contradictions.)
010 22/5e: "- - - in order that We (Allah*) might manifest (Our power) to you - - -". There is nowhere in or outside the Quran manifested anything about Allah's claimed power, for the simple reason that there nowhere is proved that Allah really is behind what is claimed to be a manifestation or sign or proof for his claimed power. This makes all such claims in the Quran just that: claims.
011 22/5f: "- - - We (Allah*) poor down rain - - -" One more of the natural phenomena Muhammad without any proofs claims for his god - just like many others as simply and cheaply do for their god(s). It had been a nice proof for Allah if the Quran first had proved it really was done by Allah, but without such a proof, it has no value as even an indication. On the contrary: Who is it who has to use fast talk and invalid proofs?
012 22/6a: “- - - Allah is the Reality - - -“. Not unless Islam brings real proofs. It is too naïve to blindly believe in a religion only based on a book with lots of mistakes, unclear language - included "different ways of reading" - contradictions, twisted facts and invalid logic – told by a man with a highly suspect moral, but a strong liking for power and riches for bribes for even more power - and women - and with his religion as his platform of power. If it is a claim, it is not possible to prove it just by more unproved claims, no matter how strongly framed or how often repeated - it needs real proofs. If it is a lie, it does not become a truth from loose, if strong other claims. But repeated frequently enough both wrong information and lies may be believed by some - just ask the infamous Nazi "Minister of Propaganda" Joseph Gobbles.
"In all aspects of life naivety and blind belief is the most sure way to be cheated - and blind belief is just what Islam glorifies and demands, because they have nothing but loose claims and words to offer".
####But a possible and eternal next life is too essential a question to rely on blindness and big, loose claims and flattery asking you not to think, but just listen to their words and claims - "taqlid". If there is a god somewhere, your brain is the second greatest gift he gave you (after life). ####Do you think he in case gave it to you just to fill up an empty scull? (- which is what "taqlid" implicates.)
013 22/6c: "- - - it is He (Allah*) who gives life to the dead - - -". See 7/158i and 21/56c above.
014 22/6d: "- - - it is He (Allah*) Who has power over all things". Often claimed, not once in 1400 years clearly proved.
015 22/7a: "And, verily (it definitely is no proved verity/truth*) - - -". Verily, with so much wrong in the Quran, a word like "verily" is not reliable, too - not without proofs. Also see 2/2b above.
016 22/7c: “- - - there can be no doubt about it - - -”. With all the mistakes in the Quran, there is every reason for doubt about quite a lot of things there.
###017 22/7e: "- - - (the fact) that Allah will raise up all who are in the graves". The only thing about central topics in the Quran which is a fact, is that as not one of them in any way is proved or documented, not one of them can be reckoned to be a fact - they all just are claims. Islam and Muslims often are quick to use words like "facts" - according to the rules for al-Taqiyya, etc. it is very ok to use f.x. when debating religion, even then the claim is dubious or untrue, at least if it is "necessary" in order to defend or promote Islam.
018 22/8a: "- - - there is among men such a one who disputes about Allah - - -". Some of them because they already at that time saw that something was very wrong in this new religion - f.x. that Muhammad's references to the Bible often were wrong, sometimes horribly wrong. Quite likely many even recognized the real sources for his tales - apocryphal (made up) scriptures, legends, and fairy tales - many of which were well known to them.
019 22/8c: "- - - disputes about Allah, without Knowledge - - -." In religion like in all other aspects of life there exists no knowledge without proofs - only belief. The belief may be strong - even so strong that you believe it is knowledge or feel sure it is knowledge. But just the same goes for all strong believers in all religions - - - and most of those religions are wrong if one of the big excluding religions is right. Islam is one of the many religions where absolutely nothing is proved - Islam even admits that Allah cannot be proved, but only when they are forced to speak the truth (it would be easy for Allah to prove himself - if he exists and is something supernatural, black or white). Islam is only built on belief. There is no real knowledge. Worse: The real knowledge tells that many points - included known facts - are wrong in the Quran.
020 22/8d: "- - - without Knowledge - - -." What is best - no knowledge or wrong knowledge? Or like in this case perhaps not without knowledge, but with correct knowledge Muhammad would not accept?
021 22/8g: “- - - (the Quran is*) a book of Enlightenment - - -”. With all its mistakes it is not. Worse: With all those mistakes you never know what is true and what not - only that it cannot be from a god, as no omniscient god makes mistakes.
022 22/9a: "(Disdainfully) bending his (a skeptic's*) side - - -" = bending his facts. But was the skeptic bending any facts if he honestly and correctly told that f.x. what Muhammad claimed was told in the Bible, was not from the Bible?
023 22/9c: "- - - the Path of Allah - - -". This path only exists if Allah exists - either a god or from the dark forces. In 1400 years there has not been one single clear indication for his existence - not to mention a proof. There only is the word of a man with very doubtful moral, believing in the use of lies (al-Taqiyya (the lawful lie) - and Kitman (the lawful half-truth), etc.), broken words/promises/oaths, and in deceit ("War is deceit" - and "everything" is jihad), and a man who like many a false prophet throughout the times had much to gain from making people believe in his new religion. + There is this man's book - a book full of mistaken facts and other mistakes, contradictions, unclear texts, invalid logic, etc.
024 22/10b: "- - - for verily Allah is not unjust unto His servants". If Allah does not exist - there are only unproved claims for him - he is neither just nor unjust unto anybody. But: Some of the sharia laws are among the most unjust laws which have ever existed - f.x. to punish a raped woman who cannot bring 4 male witnesses who actually saw the rape, and some laws concerning raids and wars. (Besides: That thieving and atrocities are permitted when fighting for the god, morally, ethically, and religiously is worse and more depraved than if the permissions had been general or not given.)
025 22/11a: "There are among men some who serve Allah, as it were, on the verge - - -". Muhammad had some experiences with undecided persons. And there were also the ones to whom economy was more essential than belief - he used "gifts" to keep a number of them (up to 100 stolen camels to a chief).
A small curiosum: Of the first 4 outside his family in Muhammad's then small sect, 3 became Christians (and one was killed) according to Ibn Ishaq.
026 22/11b: "- - - if trial comes to them (weak believers*), they turn their faces: they lose both this world and the Hereafter: that is a loss for all to see". One of the very many warnings in the Quran. But as always only unproved claims.
027 22/11c: "- - - they (not good enough Muslims*) loose both this world and the Hereafter - - -". Only if Allah really exists and is a god, and if Islam in addition is a real religion.
028 22/12a: "They call on such deities - - - as can neither hurt nor profit them - - -". Does this make you think about that it is an indisputable fact that in 1400 years Allah has not one single time unmistakably neither hurt nor profited one single person ?- yes, not even a cat or a lowly pig.
029 22/12c: "- - - straying far indeed (from the Way)!" This only can be the case if "the way" (to Allah and his paradise) exists - it only is mentioned by a man of very doubtful character and moral, and in his book full of mistakes, etc.
030 22/13a: "(Perhaps) they (non-Muslims*) call on one (other god*) whose hurt is nearer than his profit: evil, indeed, is the patron, and evil the companion (for help)". If the Quran is not from a god and/or is not the full and only truth, what is the Muslims' position here? - and what is their position in case, if there in addition somewhere else exist a real god? - not to mention if Allah in addition is from the dark forces.
031 22/14f: "- - - Gardens, beneath which rivers flow - - -". There are 4 rivers in Paradise. 2 of these are the Nile and the Euphrates, which both starts in Paradise according to Muhammad/Hadiths - believe it or not.
032 22/14h: "- - - for Allah carries out all that He plans". Allah plans and no-one can change his Plan. Predestination is central in the Quran, and especially in the later (chronologically) surahs (which may have to do with Muhammad's need for warriors. But if full predestination is true - like the Quran stresses several places - it kills several other central points in Islam, included 2 or 3 of its pillars, as they become meaningless or irrelevant or without value by the claimed "fact" that nobody and nothing can change Allah's predestined Plan.
033 22/14i: "- - - for Allah carries out all that He plans". The old fact: This will depend on if he really exists, and on what power he in case in reality has.
034 22/15a: “If any think that Allah will not help him (his Messenger (Muhammad*)) in this world and the hereafter, let him stretch out a rope to the ceiling and cut (himself) off (hang himself*) - - -.” But what does something like these words prove? Not one single thing. It just is a "literal flower" - or mental infantilism - if you view it as "proofs".
035 22/16a: "Thus have We (Allah*) sent down - - -". If Allah has sent anything at all down to Earth, at least nothing is proved about such a sending down. What is 100% or more sure, is that no god was involved in the claimed sending down of the Quran - too much is wrong in that book.
036 22/16d: "- - - Allah doth guide whom He will". Let us in case hope he does not use the Quran with all its errors as a guide-book.
037 22/16f: “- - - Allah doth guide whom He will.” Whereas Yahweh and NT guides whoever who wants strongly enough to qualify - and offers guidance also too all the others. The same god?
038 22/17f: "- - - Allah will judge between them on the Day of Judgment - - -". Often claimed, never proved.
039 22/17g: "- - - for Allah is witness of all things." An underlying reminder about the pleasant and soothing fact that he punishes all who are not good Muslims, included many who have a better life than you. And an as soothing reminder that he will save you - if you are a good Muslim - - - which includes war and obedience to Muhammad and his successors. But if he knows everything, he can learn exactly nothing from f.x. testing people.
040 22/18a: “Seest thou not that to Allah bow down in worship all things that are in the heavens (plural and wrong*) and on earth - - -?” No, we do not see that. The only ones we see doing so, are Muslim humans. This just is another of the mistakes and cheap words/claims in the Quran, unless Islam really proves that it is reality. Without proof this just is cheap propaganda - but it may work among naive or blind believers.
"Claims without a proof, can be dismissed without a proof".
041 22/18b: “- - - to Allah bow down in worship all things that are in the heavens (plural and wrong*) and on earth – the sun, the moon, the stars, the hills, the trees and the animals - - -". A lot of animism + personification (anthropomorphism) even of inanimate things. Not bad. “The Message of the Quran” (remark A22/22) even stresses that it is “conscious subduction under the will of Allah”. Not bad at all – especially for inanimate matter.
We did not know that the sun - or the moon or hills or trees - had consciousness. And honestly it takes something for the sun or any big star to prostrate themselves for Allah. But do not laugh - of course it must be true when it is said so by Allah in the Quran. (?)
Who has seen a hill or a tree prostrating itself for Allah? - not to mention 5 times a day? - or for that case a sheep or a pig or a slug or a worm, etc., etc., etc.?
042 22/18d: "- - - the sun, the moon, the stars, the hills, the trees (bow down to Allah*) - - -". Animism or even anthromorphism. Normally you find this in primitive religions and in fairy tales.
043 22/18h: "- - - for Allah carries out all He wills". Predestination and Allah's Plan which no-one and nothing can change. Similar to 22/14d above. Also see 3/154 and 14/22b above. (How can he then blame and punish - or reward humans? It actually is dishonesty if a person does what Allah has predestined and thus forced him/her to do, and then is punished or rewarded for what they did. Oh, we know the Quran talks like predestination and free will for man is possible to combine - a claim necessary for Muhammad - but that is pure mysticism, dishonesty, and impossible also for a god.)
044 22/18i: "- - - for Allah carries out all He wills". Only if he exists and is something with supernatural powers - nothing of which was ever proved. And there is the question of other gods - f.x. Yahweh - who might disagree.
045 22/19c: "- - - for them (non-Muslims*) will be cut out garment of Fire: over their heads will be poured out boiling water". See 3/77b above.
046 22/19d: "- - - for them (non-Muslims*) will be cut out garment of Fire: over their heads will be poured out boiling water". If Allah exists and has supernatural powers - good or bad. And if not Yahweh first saves his followers from among them - as those two gods and religions, and ethical and moral codes, are pretty different, that can be quite many.
047 22/19-22b: “- - - for them (non-Muslims*) will be cut out a garment of Fire: over their heads will be poured boiling water. With it will be scalded what is within their bodies, as well as (their) skins. In addition there will be maces of iron (to punish) them. Every time they wish to get away therefrom, from anguish, they will be forced back therein - - -”. Dramatic - - - but like absolutely anything of any consequence in the Quran, never documented - there only are loose words and claims. Pictures like this are efficient for keeping followers in line, though.
048 22/23a: “Allah will admit those who believe and work righteous deeds, to Gardens beneath which rivers flow: they shall be adorned therein with bracelets of gold and pearls; and their garments will be of silk”. As said before: A Paradise like the life of the very rich and kings in and around Arabia at that time, as seen through the eyes of the poor and the primitive. Has an omniscient god nothing better to offer? Also this is a robust proof for that Yahweh and Allah is not the same god - their Paradises are totally different: "At the resurrection people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven" (Matt. 22/30). To say the least of it: There is some difference between Earth-like luxury plus plenty of sex for the men, and to become like angels. Not the same god, not the same paradise, not the same religion - and Jesus and Muhammad preaching very different religions.
049 22/23c: "- - - righteous deeds - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.
050 22/23e: "- - - Gardens, beneath which rivers flow - - -". There are 4 rivers in Paradise. 2 of these are the Nile and the Euphrates, which both starts in Paradise according to Muhammad - believe it or not.
Also remember that the many and deep differences between Yahweh's and Allah's paradises are one of the strong proofs for that the two are not the same god - if they had been, their paradises had been one and the same.
051 22/23h: “- - - they (the Muslims in Paradise*) shall be adorned with bracelets of gold and pearls; and their garments will be of silk.” The Quran's - and Islam's - paradise is like a poor and primitive desert dweller's dream of a king's life on Earth + Allah high above. This is not from the Bible.
052 22/24a: "For they (Muslims*) have been guided (in this life) to the purest of speeches (the Quran*) - - -". See 1/1a above and many other places: "Pure" - is that it the right word? No.
053 22/24d: "- - - the Path (to the Islamic paradise*) - - -". This path only exists if Allah is not a made up god and the Quran in addition tells only and the full truth at least on this point. Well, it may lead somewhere all the same, if Allah is part of the dark forces - but to where?
054 22/24g: "- - - Him Who is Worthy of (all) Praise". See 1/1a above.
055 22/25da: “- - - the Sacred Mosque, which We (Allah*) have made (open) to (all) men - - -.” This is among the most solidly contradicted and abrogated verses in the entire Quran. It was prohibited for non-Muslims from around 632 AD. Today it is prohibited for any non-Muslim to enter the Kabah, and wide areas around are closed to non-Muslims. (And similar for Medina.)
We may add that originally Hubal (see second part of 1/1d) was the moon god in Arabia, and sources say the Kabah originally was his temple and dedicated to him. But when Muhammad was born, al-Lah - sometimes named Allah - may have taken over as Arabia's main god. It is a bit ironic that a building dedicated to an old moon god (be it Hubal or al-Lah/Allah - because also Allah had been a moon god and the crescent moon still is his symbol) was and is the most holy place on Earth for a claimed only and claimed omnipotent god - and as ironic is the fact that if Muhammad had been born earlier, Islam's god might have been named Hubal, not Allah (Muhammad simply took over the claimed mightiest of the pagan Arab gods, and earlier Hubal was reckoned to be the most powerful one - and the moon god like al-Lah had been and perhaps still was).
########We have not mentioned much about al-Lah/Allah's position in the Kabah before Muhammad. The reason is that it is quite unclear. There are the two gods mentioned as the main god for the Quraysh tribe = the main god in the Kabah: Hubal, the moon god, and al-Lah/Allah - also a moon god, at least in southern parts of Arabia. There are clear indications, but no proofs, for that these two really and simply were two names for the same god - perhaps with Hubal as his "personal" name and al-Lah/Allah his title (al-Lah/Allah means "the god", or in this case "the main god").
There also are indications for that there were connections between Hubal and the Ba'al known from f.x. the Bible - same god and similar name, but in another variety of religion (the name Ba'al was used for some gods in that region). If this is true, the Quran and Islam are way beyond the Milky Way when they forward claims like Zachariya prayed to Allah/Hubal/Ba'al, or that Jesus preached about Allah/Hubal/Ba'al, as in those times such connections would be known, even if they are forgotten today, and Ba'al represented the Devil to the Jews of those times.
056 22/26d: "- - - for those (Muslims*) who compasses it (the Kabah*) round - - -". This refers to the ritual of walking 7 times around the Kabah mosque. The rituals and symbols concerning pilgrimage (hajj) in Mecca are primitive and quite childish, and at an intellectual and mental low level. The reason may be the fact that Muhammad simply took them from the earlier even more primitive pagan Arab religion - life was pretty primitive in the old Arabia.
057 22/26e: "- - - prostrate themselves (Muslims*) (therein in prayer)". What is the mission of prayers in Islam? If the statements in the Quran telling that Allah predestines everything on beforehand - years and decades and more before - and according to an unchangeable Plan, prayers can have no effect, because they can change nothing.
###058 22/27c: “And proclaim the Pilgrimage among men - - -.” Pilgrimage to Mecca is so essential to Allah that he made it one of the 5 "pillars" in Islam. To Yahweh it is so totally without interest, that it - and also the claimed super holy Mecca - is not mentioned even one time in the entire Bible. One more 100+% proof for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god.
059 22/28a: "- - - celebrate the name of Allah - - -". A positive idea if Allah exists and is a god. A joke if he does not exist. A lousy idea if he exists and belongs to the dark forces.
060 22/28c: "- - - the cattle which He (Allah*) has provided - - -". Everything you own, is given you from Allah. Nature or your toil - or stealing/looting - has provided nothing?
##061 22/29a: “- - - the rites (during Hajj pilgrimage in Mecca*) prescribed for them (Muslims*) - - -“. The rites in Mecca during Hajj are all taken over from the pagan/heathen times in Arabia – and in addition they are ever so childish and primitive; run 7 times back and forth between 2 small hills, walk 7 times around a building, throw some stones at a mark impersonating the devil, and kill one or more helpless animals for sacrifice, those are the main acts.
Who prescribed old pagan rites to be the only right ones for the presumed only, real god?
Who prescribed so shallow and childish rites for a presumed unfathomable, “deep” god?
Who prescribed that neither any rites from anywhere else in the world, nor something new and soul-sustaining from Allah ought to be used in a presumed world religion – only the old, primitive pagan rites of the heathen old Arabia?
Another point is that there can be no effect of a pilgrimage, if it is true that Allah has predestined your whole life even before you were born, and this included in his Plan which nobody and nothing can change.
062 22/30a: "- - - the sacred rites of Allah - - -". The big question mark here is that all these rites were taken over from the old Pagan Arab religion. Few, if any, central rite possible to combine with monotheism were omitted - and few were added. How come that the old pagan Arabs and only they in the entire world had more or less all the rites correct? - and how come that all the other religions, included the Mosaic and the Christians - had nearly everything wrong? Remember here that the Jews and the Christians had their rites mainly from the Bible (and remember that science have proved the Bible is not falsified in spite of Islam's never documented claims - - - and that Islam has proved this even clearer by not being able to find one single proved falsification in the old, relevant papers, even though there are many thousands of relevant papers).
##063 22/30b: "- - - the sacred rites of Allah - - -". These rites - so essential to Allah - are so entirely different from anything Yahweh asks for, that especially combined with the very demand for going on pilgrimage to one special place, they make up one more 100% proof for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god. This even more so as the demanded place is on totally without interest to Yahweh - not mentioned a single time in the entire Bible. And neither Yahweh, nor Jesus, nor any of the old Jewish prophets, ever expressed a wish for humans to practice pilgrimage at all, not to mention to Mecca (there is pilgrimage among Christians, too, but the request for such is not from the Bible - and as mentioned f.x. not one of the Biblical prophets, included Jesus, ever made a pilgrimage or even wanted to do so, not to mention a pilgrimage to Kabah).
#########Another point: As Allah has predestined your life according to his Plan, which nobody and nothing can change, also a pilgrimage can have no effect.
##064 22/30c: "- - - for him (who practices the pilgrimage rites*) it is good in the sight of his Lord (Allah*) - - -". Such an idea is totally foreign to the Bible - and even more so that Mecca is holy place to the god. A 100% and more proof for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god. In addition there are all the other proofs for the same.
#065 22/30d: "- - - and shun the word that is false (here = words differing from the Quran*) - - -". Does this also include all which is wrong in the Quran? And worse: Does it include al-Taqiyya (the lawful lie), Kitman (the lawful half-truth), Hilah (lawful pretending/circumventing), "war is deceit" - and "everything is jihad - "break even your oath if that gives a better result"? Islam is the only one of the big religions which permits the use of dishonesty in wide areas of life. Combine this with especially NT's demands for honesty, and you have yet another 100+% proof for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - the moral codes are too different.
066 22/32a: "- - - the symbols of Allah - - -". Here referring to the rites of the pilgrimage - the hajj - in Mecca, likely especially to the ones connected to the sacrifice of animals.
If Yahweh and Allah had been the same god, it had been somewhat peculiar that the god liked such sacrifices in the OT, but dropped it in the New Covenant and the teaching of Jesus - for them to reinstall it shortly (at least shortly for a god) afterwards. A god with no clear ideas for what he wants?
Also: Most of the rituals during Hajj - and the god - are taken over from the old pagan Arab religion. It is peculiar if pagan rites are symbols of a monotheistic real god, and as peculiar that only the Arab pagan religion "happened" to have the correct rites. There are no similar rites in NT; not the same god, Jesus and Muhammad far from in the same religion.
067 22/32b: "- - - such honor (to sacrifice animals*) - - -". What kind of a god thinks it is an honor to him that animals are killed for him? Not even an earthly king or tribal chief thinks of that as an honor. He may like the hospitality in the good food a slaughtering may result in, but none ever look at the slaughter itself as an honor. Yahweh after all - according to the Bible - had the rational (?) reason that he liked the smell of roasted meat when it was placed on the fire afterwards.
Can the killing have anything to do with the old superstition you find in some primitive cultures - and a superstition known in what we call the Middle East, in the old times - that if you totally destroyed something in the name of your god, you had given it to the god?
068 22/32c: "- - - such honor (to sacrifice animals*) should come truly (definitely not a proved truth - only a not proved claim*) from the piety of heart". The sacrifices are to prove this piety of heart - but how come that an omniscient god needs the slaughtering of animals to believe you?"
069 22/33c: "- - - for a time appointed - - -". Predestination again. Many Muslims say there is not full predestination in the Quran (because then man has no free will, and Allah is immoral and unjust when he rewards and even worse when he punishes for deeds you have done), even though they never explain what there then is. They should read the Quran - there is no doubt whatsoever about that Allah decides every detail about everything - - - and thus that free will for man (or animals) is an impossibility.
Another fact is that even if man had only a tenth of 1% free will, after not much time the laws of chaos had destroyed both Allah's precognition and his predestinations - just ask f.x. any tactician or scientist.
070 22/34a: “To every people did We (Allah*) appoint rites (of sacrifice) - - -.” Just one problem: The Christians have not been given/ordered any kind of animal sacrifices – or rites for such. The only real rites ordered in NT are baptizing, help the needy, and Jesus' wishes during his last supper (f.x. 22/17-19), and it is not given any specific order about exactly how to perform it, except partly for baptizing.
071 22/34b: “To every people did We (Allah*) appoint rites (of sacrifice), that they may celebrate in the name of Allah - - -”. To celebrate in the name of Allah simply is prohibited by f.x. Yahweh - his general rules are very clear on points like celebrating other gods.
072 22/34c: "- - - the sustenance He (Allah*) gave - - -". Everything you have is a gift from Allah (but as Allah has predestined what you are to get, then why work? - if it is predestined that you will get it, you will get it anyhow).
This claim is often repeated in the Quran, but never proved anywhere.
073 22/34e: "- - - submit then your (Muslim's*) will to Him (Allah*) (in Islam) - - -". A bit risky without first checking if Allah exists and is a god, and if Islam is reality or made up - too many facts are wrong for the ones not blinded by belief.
074 22/34g: "- - - the good news (Islam*) - - -". A war religion never is good news, not even to its followers. There are exceptions, though: The leaders who become rich from loot and tax and powerful from suppression, and those of the warriors who become more or less rich from loot. But even these may be destroyed morally and as human beings. (Even the Quran says that the one who does bad things, is destroyed morally. Modern psychologists have told that they believe Muhammad was morally destroyed in later years by his power. "Power corrupts, and total power corrupts totally".)
075 22/35c: "- - - regular prayers - - -". This demand for regular prayers - 5 times a day - was so essential for Allah (he even wanted more often according to Hadiths) that it became one of the 5 "pillars" of Islam. For Yahweh such formalism was so totally without any interest, that no similar rule - not even the idea - at all is mentioned in the entire Bible: Pray when there is a reason or a need or a wish. One of the 100% for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god.
076 22/35e: "- - - out of what (wealth*) We (Allah*) have bestowed upon them (Muslims*)". It is Allah who gives you everything according to the Quran - not unlike 11/7a above. Often claimed, never proved.
077 22/36b: "The sacrificial camels We (Allah*) made for you (Muslims*) among the symbols from Allah - - -". One more proof for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - Yahweh in his New Covenant and NT neither asks for nor provides sacrificial animals, not to mention name such ones as symbols from himself. The differences between Yahweh and Allah really are huge and many and varied even at essential points.
078 22/36c: "- - - camels We (Allah*) have made for you - - -". See 11/7a and 22/35b above. We may add that slaughtering of animals, with its blood and gore, is a primitive way of adoring a god. And it is a primitive god who needs or take pleasure in such things. Also see 22/37a below.
079 22/36f: "- - - that ye (Muslims/people*) may be grateful". There is no reason to be grateful unless it really is Allah who has done it - there only are loose claims and loose words for that this is the case. See f.x. 11/7a above.
080 22/37a: “It is not their (the sacrificial animals*) meat nor their blood, that reaches Allah: it is your piety that reaches Him - - -“. Does an omniscient god have to see you killing helpless animals to see that you are a pious believer? – not if he really is omniscient. If Allah really is omniscient and if the only purpose with sacrificing animals is to prove your piety, then the sacrifice in reality is without meaning, as an omniscient god all the time knows very well whether you are a pious believer or not. Actually the Quran many places makes it absolutely clear that Allah knows also the innermost corners of even the deepest parts of your soul. To what avail and what meaning and what logic is a “test” or a “proof” of your piety, if Allah already knows the answer on beforehand? - and by the way: The same goes for testing your piety in war and battle and kill and be killed, something that even was meaningless if Allah were a good god - not to mention if he knows the answer already. Even worse: What is the purpose and what is the meaning of such slaughtering if Allah really predestines everything? - if he has predestined that you shall sacrifice a sheep or a camel, then it is not even a test of tour piety; it only is Allah playing a childish, bloody and meaningless game.
081 22/37d: "- - - His (Allah's*) Guidance - - -". Allah can guide nobody unless he exists and is a god, none of which was ever proved.
082 22/38b: "Verily, Allah will defend (from ill) those who believe - - -". An easy claim, but never in all history and prehistory one documented case. Lots of claims, by not one proved case. Words are cheap, deeds are reliable.
083 22/38d: "- - - Allah loveth not any that is a traitor to faith - - -". If Allah does not exist, he loves nobody. If he exists and is a god, whom he loves will depend entirely on how his religion is, and the Quran is no guide to this, as no god ever was involved in a book with that much mistaken facts and other errors. And if he exists, but belongs to the dark forces, it is anybody’s guess whom he loves.
#084 22/39a: (NB: 622 or 623 AD): “To those against whom war is made, permission is given (to fight), because they are wronged”. Remark the difference in the wording here on the transition between the rather peaceful Mecca period, and during the bloody and inhuman Medina period afterwards.
####According to Islam this is the first time the theme war for Muslims is mentioned in the Quran (remember the Quran is not ordered chronologically). For 6 years war was not at all mentioned, and the first 12 - 14 years war was not a topic, and then over the short period of some months - after Muhammad started to need warriors in Medina - it became the central topic and sure way to Paradise. What had happened to Allah? - and why had he cheated his followers by not telling about this simple and sure way to Paradise before? Sure even for the greatest sinners. (Though definitely not a sure way to Yahweh's Paradise. The same god? The same religion for Jesus and for Muhammad? Definitely not.)
#085 22/39b: (NB: 622 or 623 AD): “To those against whom war is made, permission is given (to fight), because they are wronged”. NB: This only goes for Muslims. To defend yourself against Muslims/Islam - to fight back - soon became a grave sin. (It nearly always was the Muslims who were the aggressors during the time of Muhammad - and later - but all the same it was the opposite side who were the bad people.)
086 22/39e: "- - - Allah is Most Powerful for their (Muslims*) aid - - -". This is a claim you frequently meet in the surahs from Medina and the war religion Islam developed into there: Allah is powerful and will help you in battles - aiding you f.x. with thousands of angels of war. Often claimed, never proved.
VERY different from NT. And remember: Both science and - involuntarily - Islam thoroughly have proved that the Bible, included NT, is not falsified, in spite of Muhammad's - like normal - never proved claims about this.
087 22/40b: "- - - in defiance of right - - -". Here this means "in defiance of Islam". Whether Islam can be named "right" you will have to think over yourself.
088 22/40d: “Did not Allah check one set of people by means of another, there would surely have been pulled down monasteries, churches, synagogues, and mosques - - -.” Wrong – this is far from the only way an omniscient and omnipotent god could manage the world. One alternative is f.x. to change man a little and teach him how to live in peace. Only members of a culture and religion of war and looting and suppressing do not immediately see this. This point just is an artificial alibi for war and conquest – and suppression and looting. (Scientists believe Muhammad's success and power destroyed him morally – not an unusual phenomenon for absolute dictators and others). Also see 22/39a above.
#089 22/40f: “- - - monasteries, churches, synagogues, - - -, in which the name of Allah is commemorated - - -“. The name of Allah is not commemorated there – on the contrary the name of Yahweh (or simply God) is what one commemorates there. Muslims will claim that it is the same god – as usual without proving anything - but the teachings are fundamentally so different, that it is impossible that they are the same unless the god is mentally seriously ill. Also they will claim that the reason for the differences in the teachings are that the Bible is willfully falsified – something science (and even more so Islam) long since has proved for one thing is not true (even the oldest scriptures are like today, except for minor mistakes normal when manuscripts are copied by hand), and for another was physically impossible (not possible to make the same falsifications in all the thousands of manuscripts spread over thousands of kilometers and owned by thousands of different owners – who often even disagreed (even strongly sometimes) on many topics). How would you f.x. make Jews and Christians agree on what and how to falsify in the OT? But it was the only way out and the only way Muhammad could save his religion and his platform of power when he finally understood how much was different between his teachings and the Bible.
090 22/40g: "- - - mosques, in which the name of Allah is commemorated - - -". Such mosques were unknown until after Muhammad started his new religion - no traces of such one from before that have been found in any science or by Islam (Muslims will claim the Kabah in Mecca, but Kabah in reality was a pagan temple until 630 AD when Muhammad conquered Mecca and threw out all pagan gods except al-Lah/Allah). A time anomaly.
091 22/40h: "Allah will certainly aid those who aid His (cause) - - -". In all history and prehistory there exists not one proved sample of Allah aiding anyone. There are lots of claims and even belief, but not one proved case. Just like you find in f.x. most of the Pagan religions.
092 22/41b: "- - - regular prayers - - -". This demand for regular prayers - 5 times a day - was so essential for Allah (he even wanted oftener according to Hadiths) that it became one of the 5 "pillars" of Islam. For Yahweh such formalism was so totally without any interest, that no similar rule - not even the idea - at all is mentioned in the entire Bible: Pray when there is a reason or a need or a wish. One of the 100% for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god.
##093 22/41f: "- - - with Allah rests the end (and decision) of (all) affairs". There is no doubt; Allah decides and predestines EVERYTHING. Muslims trying to explain this away to give man some free will and thus make Allah less immoral when he punishes for bad deeds or rewards good ones, should read the Quran.
094 22/42b: "If they treat thy (Muhammad's*) (mission) as false, so did the Peoples before them - - -". It seems to have been essential to Muhammad to impress on his followers and others that it was normal for prophets not to be believed - and consequently that he was a normal prophet, albeit the greatest of them all, with just normal problems.
095 22/42c: "If they treat thy (Muhammad's*) (mission) as false, so did the Peoples before them (with their prophets)- - -". The Quran claims there always and in all communities have been prophets from Allah - Hadiths mention the number 124ooo prophets throughout the times, and even that number seems to just be symbolic for nearly innumerably many. Science has shown the claim to be wrong, though, as with the exception of the Jewish and Christian religions which are somewhat similar, there exists not one single trace of such a monotheistic religion in the old times from the emergence of Homo Sapiens may be 200ooo years ago and up to 610 AD when Muhammad started his religion. An as good proof for that the claim is wrong, is the fact that also Islam has found no such trace older than 610 AD.
096 22/42e: "- - - 'Ad and Thamud - - -". Two tribes and 2 claimed prophets(?) - Hud and Salih - in the very old time, which Muhammad claimed - but as normal never proved - were exterminated because they sinned against Allah. They are taken from old Arab folklore, and not from the Bible, and may or may not have existed (likely have, but hardly like described in the Quran), and if they have existed may or may not have been especially sinful against Allah. There is no documentation showing that if they were exterminated and not just lost their culture and power and were mixed with other people, the extermination was like what the Quran claims.
They are not mentioned in the Bible, but Thamud is mentioned in connection to the Assyrians around 700 BC and disappeared from history somewhere around 600-400 BC. As the Quran indicates that they were destroyed before Abraham (2ooo-1800 BG), this tells that the Quran's time line on this point is something like 1500 years wrong.
There also is a possibility that 'Ad did exist. They in case started some time between the 23. and the 10. century. 'Ad is mentioned by the old historian Claudius Ptolemy in his "Geographos" (though not necessarily as confirmed knowledge), but Hud not.
097 22/42-44: Muhammad was not generally accepted as a prophet until late in his career. Here he claims that to be disbelieved was the norm for prophets, and lists a number of Biblical and other claimed prophets which he claimed all had got the same treatment as he - implication; Mohammad got a normal treatment for prophets and thus was a normal prophet. For one who in reality was no prophet at all (he did not have the gift making him able to make prophesies) it was a brash claim.
098 22/44c: "- - - I (Allah*) granted respite to the Unbelievers - - -". This is Muhammad's most used "explanation" for why bad people living a good life are not punished at once by Allah.
099 22/44e: "- - - how (terrible was My (Allah's*) rejection (of them (non-Muslims*))". See 3/37b above.
100 22/45a: "How many populations have We (Allah*) destroyed - - -" The Quran claims that Allah had destroyed more or less innumerable cultures and peoples and tribes because they sinned - Allah is no benevolent and forgiving god, especially if he predestines everything like the Quran claims, and then punish man for things Allah forced him to do (if Allah predestines, man's full or partly free will is non-existing - only an impossible and never proved claim Muhammad used to explain away Allah's harshness and injustice in such cases - even Islam and its scholars (f.x. A6/141) admit it is impossible to understand how predestination by Allah should be possible to combine with full or partly free will for man: If Allah decides everything, and his decisions are final like the Quran claims, there is nothing left for man to decide.
101 22/45c: "And how many wells are lying idle and neglected, and castles lofty and well built (but empty*)" One of the many places where Muhammad refers to empty buildings and ruins scattered over Arabia and further, telling that Allah has destroyed all of them because they sinned against him. Science knows about a number of other possible reasons for empty houses, hamlets and towns in such areas - especially in arid and warlike areas like Arabia was.
102 22/46c: "Truly it is not their eyes that are blind (as they do not believe in the Quran and in Muhammad*) - - -". No, at least some of the disbelievers were not disbelievers because they were blind, but on the contrary because they saw too well that something was very wrong. (But to blame non-believers for being blind, is good psychology for the believers in any religion and any sect).
####103 22/46d: "Truly it is not their eyes that are blind (as they do not believe in the Quran and in Muhammad*) - - -". What the Quran forgets(?) to mention, is that Muslims are victims for just the same human dilutions (taqlid, etc.) like others: A blind heart and a blind brain are blinder than a blind eye or a deaf ear. This is the only possible reason why intelligent and educated Muslims do not see all the many big and small errors, etc. in the Quran - #########they are unable to or unwilling to see, or are unable to face the terrifying fact that something is horribly wrong with one of the basic elements they have built their lives on.
104 22/47c: "But Allah will not fail in His Promise". Allah has till this date not one single time provably kept one single promise - or even given one. Lots of claims, but not one proved case. The best proof for this? - Islam's silence on this point.
105 22/47e: “Verily, a Day in the sight of thy Lord (Allah*) is like a thousand years of your (peoples’*) reckoning.” Contradicted by:
70/4: “- - - unto Him (Allah*) in a Day the measure of is (as) fifty thousand years.”
Another contradiction that "does not exist in the Quran and thus proves” that the book is from Allah according to Islam. (There are more than 300 internal contradictions in the Quran.)
106 22/48c: "In the end I (Allah*) punished them (non-Muslims*)". Often claimed, never proved. A bit similar to 3/77b above.
107 22/48e: "To Me (Allah*) is the destination (of all)". There is no doubt; Allah decides and predestines EVERYTHING. Muslims trying to explain this away to give man some free will and thus make Allah less immoral when he punishes for bad deeds, should read the Quran.
108 22/49a: "I (Muhammad*) am (sent) - - -". Was Muhammad really sent? What is sure is that no god ever sent a message containing so many errors like the Quran - and then it is highly unlikely they sent a messenger without a god's message. The possibility remains, though, that he was send by someone else - if f.x. Iblis (the Devil) dressed up like Gabriel, Muhammad had no chance to see the difference. Read 1/1a above, and you will see that this is a possible explanation.
109 22/49c: “I (Muhammad*) am (sent) to you (men*) only to give a Clear Warning - - -.” Well this was ca. 616 AD. But from some 6 years later on it was no longer only a warning, but the sword - - - and a lot of contradictions and abrogations in the texts and the teaching This verse is contradicted and often “killed” by at least these verses: 2/191, 2/193, 3/28, 3/85, 3/148, 4/81, 4/90, 5/33, 5/72, 5/73, 8/12, 8/38-39 (the warning), 8/39, 8/60, 9/3, 9/5, 9/14, 9/23, 9/29, 9/33, 9/73, 9/123, 25/36, 25/52, 33/61, 33/73, 35/36, 47/4, 66/9. This includes many advising or permitting political, social, economical, etc. compulsion (with the sword in the background if you protest) – we mention a few here: 3/28, 3/85, 3/148, 4/81, 5/72, 5/73, 9/23, 14/7, 15/3, 33/73, 35/36. They are all quoted under 2/256. (At least 29 contradictions).
110 22/49d: "- - - Clear Warning - - -". How clear is a warning when it is mixed up with lots and more of mistakes, contradictions, etc.?
111 22/50c: "- - - for them (good Muslims*) is forgiveness - - -". Only if Allah exists and is a major and a benevolent god - only the victim or a god can forgive.
As for forgiving from Allah: See 2/187d above.
112 22/50d: "- - - a sustenance most generous (in the next life*)". Only if such a paradise really exists and the Quran in addition has told the full truth and only the truth about this.
113 22/51b: “- - - Our (Allah’s*) Signs - - -“. There is not one single sign clearly from Allah in the entire Quran. With the possible exception of some taken from the Bible, there is not even one single sign that is proved made by a god – any god. (And the ones from the Bible in case proves Yahweh, not Allah – two very different gods (especially as we meet Yahweh in the NT and the new covenant there – which Muslims never mention) if not Islam really proves the opposite. But Islam never proves anything fundamental).
114 22/52b: “Never did We (Allah*) send a messenger or a prophet before thee (Muhammad*), but, when he framed a desire, Satan threw some (vanity) into his desire: but Allah will cancel anything (vain) that Satan throws in, and Allah will confirm (and establish) His Signs - - -”. (from the middle of the Mecca period mainly - ca. 614 - 617 AD (perhaps 616 AD) and shortly after the infamous “Satanic Verses” Muhammad quoted in 53/19-22 in a situation where he had much to gain from becoming friends with the rulers and ruling class in Mecca: “Have ye seen al-Lat, al-Uzza, And another, the third (goddess), Manat (the three daughters of the main god in Mecca at that time, al-Lah*)? These are exalted idols whose intercession is hoped”. Muhammad afterwards changed the 4 short verses to: “Have ye seen al-Lat, al-Uzza, And another, the third (goddess) Manat? What! For you male sex, and for Him, the female (for children*)! Behold, such would be indeed most unfair!” (Muhammad was an Arab and was sure a god would look down on women as much as Arabs did*). This episode made a lot of “noise”, and it was most convenient for him to receive(?) a verse like this telling all prophets had had experiences like that, and that he was not to be blamed).
It may be ok to abrogate words of Satan, but how could an omniscient and omnipotent god permit Satan to do it? - something is wrong here. And how could a perfect prophet not notice that 3 goddesses was something way out of his former teachings? - - - if there was not a reason for him to do it? And how many other verses are inspired by whispering from Satan? (- the brutal verses from Medina may make one think this and that.)
Also: Likely wrong as it is nowhere said that this happened to Jesus (Jesus was tried by the Devil according to the Bible, but did not fall). And also not to a number of other prophets. This is one of the many points in the Quran which is not proved.
By the way: The Satanic Verses simply are 3 short lines:
Have ye (people*) thought upon Al-Lat, Al-Uzza and Manat (daughters of Allah and central goddesses*), the third, the other?
These are the exalted gharaniq whose intercession is hoped for.
The exact meaning of the word "gharaniq" is unclear - Muhammad far from always was clear in the Quran. What is clear is that it is something positive, and that Muhammad here left his monotheism in order to get privileges from the ruling classes in Mecca. But shortly afterwards he withdrew the verses, claimed he had been cheated by the Devil, and abrogated them with what today are verses 53/19-22.
But it tells something ominous that Muhammad initially was willing to change his religion radically to get privileges. Was it something similar which happened shortly after he came to Medina, and saw how much money there was to be made from being a robber baron? - Islam quite suddenly changed from quite peaceful to a full-fledged religion of war, included acceptance and use of dishonesty, thieving/looting, rape, slave taking, suppression, blood, and glorifying of fighting and war, etc.
115 22/52e: "- - - Allah will confirm (and establish) His Signs - - -". This has never happened in a provable way - guess if Muslims had been big if they had had the slightest confirmation for that claimed signs for Allah (Quran-speak for proofs for Allah) existed!!! Islam's silence about this is the best proof for that Allah never confirmed/proved that the claimed signs really were from him.
116 22/53d: “- - - the wrongdoers are in schism far (from the Truth)”. That the Quran is the truth, is just a claim, not a proved fact. At very best they are far from "bits and pieces of truth", at least as the truth is pretended to be in the Quran, as that book at best contains bits and pieces of what is true. May be some of the bits even were right?
117 22/54a: "- - - those on whom knowledge has been bestowed may learn that the (Quran) is the truth - - -". The main thing you can learn if you have much real knowledge, and start reading the Quran, is that there are very many wrong facts and other errors in the book - by far too much for even a minor god to have been involved. Things are really wrong with the Quran, and thus with Muhammad and with Islam.
118 22/54b: "- - - those on whom knowledge has been bestowed - - - may believe therein (in the Quran*) - - -". It is not possible for anyone with real knowledge AND a little training in critical thinking + have a brain which still functions, to believe in the Quran. It is not possible to believe in something you see is full of mistakes and worse - even at least a few lies - or to believe in a religion where it is easy to see no god has ever been involve (no god was ever involved in a book of a quality like the Quran.
But Muhammad often used these age-old tricks; flattery and deception.
119 22/54h: “- - - Allah is the Guide of those who believe - - -". Allah cannot be the guide of anyone, unless he exists and is a god. Well, he can be a guide even if he belongs to the dark forces (or simply is a mental pagan and manmade idol), but what kind of a guide?
120 22/54i: “- - - Allah (the Quran*) is the Guide of those who believe, to the Straight Way.” Wrong – a book with that many mistakes, twisted facts/logic, etc. is not representing a straight way, at least not to Paradise.
121 22/55a: “Those who reject Faith (Islam*) will not cease to be in doubt concerning (Revelation)”. Perhaps jestingly correct - maybe there will be a revelation made by some god (perhaps by Yahweh) some time. But we are in no doubt at all that there are good reasons for serious doubts about the Quran’s claims, statements and descriptions - why should the claims and statements we cannot check, be more reliable than the ones we can, and among which we find far too many to be wanting or wrong?
This claim also was a psychologically - if not true - good story for Muhammad to tell his followers.
122 22/55d: "- - - (Revelation) - - -". But is it really revelations? - and in case from whom or what? As no god was ever involved in a book that full of errors, the remaining alternatives are: Dark forces, A sick brain (f.x. TLE - Temporal Lobe Epilepsy), or a (or more) cold and scheming brain(s).
123 22/56b: "On that Day the Dominion will be that of Allah - - -". There is one problem, though: Words are so cheap and Muhammad was able to prove not one single thing about his religion - most religions say similar things about their god(s), and the believers believe it, exactly like in Islam. And one more thing: When so much is wrong in the book that it is clear it is not from a god, why should this be correct? And would it mean anything in case, as it is not from a god?
124 22/56d: "He (Allah*) will judge - - -". Not unless he exists - and if he in case happens he belongs to the dark forces, we would prefer he did not judge - some of the Quran's moral and judicial rules are horrible (compare to "do unto others like you want others do unto you", and see for yourself).
125 22/56g: "- - - Gardens of Delight". Paradise. Also see 10/9f above.
In the Bible the delight is life like an angel in Paradise. In the Quran it is life like a poor, uneducated, and naive desert dweller's vision of a royal luxury life, included lots of sex for the men. Yahweh and Allah definitely not the same god, and Jesus and Muhammad as surely not in the same religion, not to mention in the same line of prophets.
126 22/57d: "- - - (for non-Muslims*) there will be a humiliating punishment". If Allah exists and is a god (that is to say; he can punish also if he belongs to the dark forces) - - - and if not Yahweh disagrees, at least concerning his followers - if he exists.
127 22/58a: This is one of the verses from 624 AD: "Those who leave their home in the cause of Allah, and are then slain or die - on them will Allah bestow, verily, a goodly Provision (Paradise*) - - -". This is the flagship of the revised Islam: Be killed in war for the religion, and you go directly to the paradise, no matter how big a sinner you are. A very good claim - though never proved - for Muhammad and later warlike rulers who needed warriors. And very telling about "the Religion of Peace" and about the claimed "good and benevolent god" Allah.
There is nothing similar in the Bible.
128 22/58b: This is one of the verses from 624 AD: "Those who leave their home in the cause of Allah, and are then slain or die - on them will Allah bestow, verily, a goodly Provision (Paradise*) - - -". Why did it take 12 years from Muhammad started his mission till he mentioned this for the first time, even though it is one of the central "facts" in the revised Islam?
(Beware that even though Muhammad started his mission in 610, he was not very active outside his family and nearest ones the first few years. But also later he did not mention the above until he started needing warriors.)
##129 22/58c: "Those who leave their home in the cause of Allah, and are then slain or die - on them will Allah bestow, verily, a goodly Provision (Paradise*) - - -". Except for real martyrs (the Quran calls everything martyrs, included aggressive warriors, terrorists, and whatever) guess if here is a difference between Yahweh and Allah, between Jesus and Muhammad! Not the same god and not the same kind of representatives on Earth by far.
130 22/58d: "- - - on them (Muslims killed for Muhammad*) will Allah bestow, verily, a goodly provision - - -". If he exists, if he is a major war god, and if the Quran has told the truth and only the truth about this.
131 22/58h: "- - - truly Allah is He Who bestows the best Provision". But:
The paradise of Islam for men: Royal luxury and plenty of sex - that is all.
The paradise of Islam for women: Royal luxury and perhaps a little sex if you can compete with your husband’s houris - that is all.
The paradise of Islam for children and for unmarried women: Royal luxury - the rest unclear.
The paradise of the Bible for everybody: "You become like angels".
No comments - except of course there remains the question if any of these religions are true religions. (Allah here has proved nothing, Yahweh a lot - - - if the old books tell the truth on this point. It also is ever so clear that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god. If they had been, their Paradises had been one and the same.)
132 22/58i: "- - - truly Allah is He Who bestows the best Provision". If Yahweh's paradise is correctly described in the Bible (one becomes like the angels (f.x. Mark 12/25)), and if Allah's paradise is correctly described in the Quran (a primitive desert dwellers vision of a king's luxury life in laziness + lots of women), both are true, we by far prefer the first one. A royal life and nothing to do would be nice for some time, but exceedingly boring in the long run. Not to mention how it is for women, where perhaps 72 or more women and houris have to share one man according to Hadiths.
133 22/59ba: "- - - He will admit them (Muslims*) to a place with which they shall be well pleased - - -". Often claimed in the Quran, never proved anywhere.
134 22/60c: "- - - if one has retaliated to no greater extent than the injury he received, and is again set upon inordinately, Allah will help him - - -". If you are attacked more times after a reasonable reaction the first time, you are permitted to do whatever you like and use whatever means, and Allah will accept and forgive it (A22/74). Also this widely different from the moral ideas behind NT.
As for forgiving from Allah: See 2/187d above.
135 22/60e: "- - - Allah is One that blots out (sins) - - -". Frequently claimed, never reliably documented. Also possible only if Allah exists and is a major god.
136 22/60g: "- - - Allah is One that - - - forgives (again and again)". Only two can forgive; the victim and a god. This thus only is possible if Allah exists and is a god.
Another point is that to forgive - or for that case to punish or reward or fulfill prayers - means for Allah to change his Plan considering the sinner/person, something which according to the Quran is something nobody and nothing can make him do. Prayers according to this thus are meaningless - or the Quran is lying when it says nobody and nothing can change Allah's Plan. See 2/187d above.
137 22/61a: "- - - Allah merges Night into Day, and He merges Day into Night - - -". Once more one of the many cases where Muhammad claims a natural phenomenon as an indication or a proof for his god - and like always without any proof for that it really is Allah who causes it. Just like any believer in any religion can claim for his god(s), as long as he can evade proving anything. As long as it is not proved that Allah really causes this phenomenon, it is entirely void of any value as an indication, not to mention as a proof. Also see 11/7a above.
Worse: Who is it normally who uses invalid proofs and fast talk? The cheater and deceiver.
138 22/61c: "- - - it is Allah Who hears and sees (all things) - - -". See 2/233h above.
##139 22/62a: “- - - Allah - He is reality - - -”. Well, that is one of the big points which neither the Quran nor Hadith nor Islam’s learned men have been able to give the slightest proof for. Even some Muslim intellectuals admit so. This in spite of all the “signs” and “proofs” that say so in the Quran - they have one thing in common: NOT ONE OF THEM GIVES ONE SINGLE VALID PROOF OF ALLAH - they all are claims or statements built on air or on not proved “facts” or on other claims or statements which are not proved. A fact that “smells”. Gabriel may simply be a result of a sick brain (modern medical science suspects Muhammad had TLE (Temporal Lobe Epilepsy) - which can give such religious "experiences" like it is said Muhammad had), or something made up in the imagination of a Muhammad pretending Allah to be an avatar of - or identical to - Yahweh. The last is not possible, though, as the essences of the two teachings are too different, but Muhammad did pretend so. And: Cheating is the hallmark of cheaters.
#####Unless Islam can show real proofs for the existence of Allah, there are so many circumstantial and empirical proofs for that Allah is a made up god, that they put together is a proof of mathematical strength for that Allah does not exist, and just is a mental, pagan idol. Not to mention that they together proves by mathematical strength that the Quran is from no omniscient god
140 22/62b: "- - - those besides Him (Allah*) whom they (non-Muslims*) invoke - they are but vain falsehood - - -". Two points: Allah has never proved himself - does he exist, or is he falsehood? And: Apart from all the other claimed gods, there is the fact that Yahweh has proved both his existence and his power - - - if either the Quran or the Bible speaks the truth. A god who is too different from Allah to be the same god, and the main figure in a book proved not falsified by science and by Islam + he is a guest star in the Quran, though wrongly under another name.
141 22/62d: "- - - verily, Allah is He, Most High, Most Great". Beautiful words - but never proved, and words are cheap, even superlatives. By the way: Superlatives often are used in propaganda - for one thing they look superb, and for another thing they cost nothing - - - just ask any politician or self proclaimed prophet or businessman or others hunting for power or riches. Also see 1/1a above.
142 22/62e: "- - - verily, Allah is He, Most High, Most Great". We are back to the disturbing, but relevant question about Yahweh. And to the question if Allah really exists, and if he in case belongs to the dark forces, like many points in the Quran and also in its moral code may indicate.
143 22/64a: "To Him (Allah*) belongs all that is in the heavens (plural and wrong*) and on earth - - -". Related to 11/7a above. One of the many claims any priest in most big religions makes on behalf of his religion. Most of them have got to be wrong.
144 22/64c: "- - - Allah - - - is - - - Worthy of all Praise". Read 1/1a above and see if you agree.
145 22/65d: "- - - Allah is Most Kind and Most Merciful to man". See 1/1a above.
146 22/66a: "It is He (Allah*) Who gave you (people*) life - - -". Often claimed, never proved. See 6/2b, 11/7a and 21/56c above.
147 22/66b: "It is He (Allah*) Who gave you (people*) life - - -". Contradicted by the Bible, which says this was Yahweh's doing, not Allah's. Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.
Another point is that according to science both may be wrong here.
148 22/66d: "- - - (Allah*) will again give you life - - -". See 7/158i above.
149 22/66f: "- - - truly man is a most ungrateful creature!" Not true in this case unless Allah really did what verses 22/65-67 say - and not one micrometer of the loose claims is proved.
150 22/67a: "To every people We (Allah*) appointed rites and ceremonies - - -". Is this correct? - Muhammad did not get his rites etc. from Allah, he just took over them from the old pagan Arabs. And these also all other people have to follow, even (former) Jews and Christians who presumably really got some of their rites and ceremonies from the god.(Christians in reality got no fixed rites, except the baptizing and following the requests of Jesus made his last supper (f.x. Matt. 26/26-28), and even those did not get a defined rite from "above".)
151 22/67c: “- - - thou (Muslims*) art assuredly on the Right Way”. That only is true if the Quran is correct - - - and the Quran contains lots of mistakes, contradictions, twisted arguments, twisted logic, some outright lies, etc. (all of which are hallmarks for cheats, deceivers and swindlers – persons normally looking for money, women and/or power in dishonest ways. Muhammad liked women and power – and money for “gifts” - bribes - to possible or lukewarm followers). Similar claim in 45/18. Besides: Have you ever noticed that the one who most needs to boast – loudly and frequently – about how truthful he is, is the cheater and the swindler, and the one boasting about his knowledge is the medium to rather ok, but not top intelligent and learned one? – the really honest and the really intelligent persons never need to boast about those things. Real honesty and real intelligence makes itself felt after some time of close connection – if there is a need for boasting, something is wrong. And the Quran talk quite a lot, especially about how truthful it is.
152 22/67d: "- - - assuredly - - -". See 2/2b above.
153 22/68b: “If they (“infidels”) do wrangle with thee, say. ‘Allah knows best what it is ye are doing” – and leave them alone. This was ca. 616 AD. But from some 6 years later and more came lots of contradictions and abrogations. This verse is contradicted and often “killed” by at least these verses: 2/191, 2/193, 3/28, 3/85, 3/148, 4/81, 4/90, 5/33, 5/72, 5/73, 8/12, 8/38-39 (the warning), 8/39, 8/60, 9/3, 9/5, 9/14, 9/23, 9/29, 9/33, 9/73, 9/123, 25/36, 25/52, 33/61, 33/73, 35/36, 47/4, 66/9. This includes many advising or permitting political, social, economical, etc. compulsion (with the sword in the background if you protest) – we mention a few here: 3/28, 3/85, 3/148, 4/81, 5/72, 5/73, 9/23, 14/7, 15/3, 33/73, 35/36. They are all quoted under 2/256. (At least 29 contradictions).
154 22/68c: "Allah knows best - - -". Allah knows nothing unless he exists. If he is a dressed up non-existing pagan god (al-Lah), he knows nothing of course. And he has never in any way manifested himself.
155 22/69a: "Allah will judge between you (non-Muslims*) - - -". Not possible unless he exists and is something supernatural (and if he belongs to the dark forces, this may be not good).
156 22/70a: "- - - Allah knows all that is in the heaven and on earth - - -". See 2/233h above.
157 22/70c: "- - - a Record - - -". Why does Allah use a record if he is omniscient?
158 22/71a: "- - - they (non-Muslims*) worship, besides Allah - - -". This and similar expressions you find repeatedly in the Quran - but it mostly is wrong: They do - and did - not worship other gods besides Allah. They worshipped other gods simply - f.x. Yahweh - instead of Allah. In a cheating way one can say Muhammad was right about many Arabs - they worshipped al-Lah - the same god Muhammad called Allah - and others in addition. But they prayed to the old pagan god al-Lah, not to the new and different Allah. Muhammad tries to place Allah in the center so that the other gods(?) were in addition to Allah, but Allah in reality was no part of their religion at all - they simply had other gods.
159 22/71d: "- - - things for which no authority has been sent down to them, and of which they have (really) no knowledge - - -". As the Quran is not from a god - no god makes such and so many mistakes, contradictions, cases of invalid logic, etc. - what is then the authority behind Islam? This even more so as all the believed knowledge only rests on a book full of mistakes, dictated by a man of very doubtful morality, and nothing more - except the never proved belief of the forefathers who believed in that book - - - and plus "taqlid" (servile and uncritical acceptance of your father's belief).
160 22/71h: "- - - (for non-Muslims*) there is no helper". What if they are followers of f.x. Yahweh? - a god the Quran admits exists, even though they wrongly mix him with Allah.
161 22/72b: "- - - thou (Muslims*) wilt notice a denial on the face of the Unbelievers (when reciting the claimed signs*) - - -". Not very strange as many of them knew/know the claimed signs are invalid or even wrong.
162 22/72e: "It is the (Fire of Hell)! Allah has promised it to the Unbelievers!" A promise worth nothing if Allah is a made up god. But for that: See 3/77b above.
163 22/73a: "Those on whom, besides Allah, ye (non-Muslims*) call - - -". See 25/18a below.
164 22/73b: "Those on whom, besides Allah, ye (non-Muslims at the time of Muhammad*) call cannot create (even) a fly - - -". But neither has Allah ever proved that he can - there only exist loose claims resting on nothing for his claimed power - and only in a book full of mistakes, dictated by a man with a very dubious moral. See f.x. 6/2b, 11/7a and 21/56c+e above.
165 22/73d: "Feeble are - - - those (gods*) they (non-Muslims*) petition". Well concerning the followers of Yahweh? - he had a reputation for being strong even in the Quran (where they wrongly mix him with Allah, though). Another point: Allah have never provably proved (many claims, but not one valid proof) his power or even his very existence - because he is feeble or non-existing?
166 22/74a: "No just estimate have they (non-Muslims*) made of Allah - - -". If Allah sent down the Quran, many non-Muslims have made a just estimate of him. And if he does not exist, but is a made up god, also many or most non-Muslims have made just estimates. Not to mention if he exists, but is from the dark forces.
167 22/74b: "- - - Allah is He Who is strong and able to carry out His Will." A claim many times repeated, but never demonstrated.
168 22/75a: “Allah chooses Messengers from angles and from men - - -.” But not from Jinns? Contradicted by:
6/130: “O ye assembly of Jinns and men! Came there not unto you messengers from amongst you - - -?” A rhetoric question shoving there came messengers from men to men, and from Jinns to Jinns. Not only from angels and men.
169 22/76a: "He (Allah*) knows what is before them and what is behind them - - -". Allah knows everything - but why then does he need to test even his followers?
170 22/76b: “- - - to Allah go back all questions (for decision).” It is Allah who decides everything = full predestination - how can he then judge non-Muslims and bad Muslims to Hell for being forced/led to do what they believed they decided themselves, but which in reality were Allah’s decisions? (This is the reason why many Muslims try to explain away predestination.)
171 22/77b: "- - - adore your Lord (Allah*) - - -". Wise if he exists and is a god. Meaningless if he does not exist. Ever so negative if he exists and belongs to the dark forces.
172 22/78b: “And strive in His (Allah's*) cause as ye ought to strive - - -". Ought you to strive for him at all unless he exists and is a god? - and what if he exists and is from the dark forces (the difference between some of the Quran's ethical, judicial, and moral codes and "do unto others like you want others do unto you", may make one wonder.)
173 22/78c: "He has chosen you (Muhammad/Muslims*) - - -". The old fact: Allah could choose no-one unless he existed (but of course he could even if he belonged to the dark forces, if he existed).
174 22/78d: "- - - imposed no difficulties on you in your religion (Islam*) - - -". Except small things like risking your life or health going to war, feeding the clergy, obeying in servility your leaders, believe things your brain really tells you are wrong, or not believe facts your brain knows must be right, etc. And this was just some of the demands men meet - then there are the women: Few Muslim men would accept the life they condemn many women to live (but then empathy hardly exists in the Quran).
175 22/78e: "- - - it (Islam*) is the cult of your father Abraham". For one thing it is unlikely Abraham is the forefather of the Arabs - Ishmael and his sons settled near the border of Egypt, according to the Bible (written at a time when there was no reason for the writer to falsify this), not in Arabia (1. Mos. 25/18). Also DNA-analysis indicate that the Arabs in reality is a mixture of people who drifted into the desert from different places and nations when the domestication of the camel made life there possible + the result of being at a crossroad for the caravans + the result of large import of slaves/concubines from Europe, Asia and Africa. What once - impolitely - was called a bastard production. Not to mention that Arabia was settled thousands of years before Abraham - not later than 7ooo BC in the coastal areas - which means that even if Abraham had been one of the Arabs' forefathers, he had been only one out of perhaps 100ooo. This in case means that even if Abraham had been among their forefathers, out of an Arab's some 5 liters of blood, only 0.05 milliliters would come from Abraham - compared to likely at least a deciliter from Africa south of Sahara - and only 0.001% of an Arab's DNA would come from Abraham. And for another thing there is no reason to believe Islam was Abraham's religion, but strong reason reasons for to believe that the claim is wrong, as no traces from a religion like Islam older than 610 AD have ever been found anywhere. Islam will have to produce proofs in order to be believed by us.
176 22/78g: "- - - this (Revelation) - - -". But is the Quran a revelation? - and in case from whom, as no god was ever involved in a book of this quality?
177 22/78i: "- - - the Messenger (Muhammad*) may be a witness for you, and ye be witnesses for mankind!". But why does an omniscient god need witnesses?
Not to mention: What value would a man with a morality - al-Taqiyya (the lawful lie), Kitman (the lawful half-truth), Hilah (the lawful pretending/circumventing), Taqlid? (he kept much from the old pagan religion) , deceit, betrayal, and broken words/promises/oaths (2/225, 5/89, 16/91, 66/2) - like Muhammad have? Old Bailey would not accept him as a bona fide Witness, and a god should be even choosier and more mindful of honesty and reliability than a human court.
178 22/78j: "- - - regular prayers - - -". This demand for regular prayers - 5 times a day - was so essential for Allah (he even wanted more often according to Hadiths) that it became one of the 5 "pillars" of Islam. For Yahweh such formalism was so totally without any interest, that no similar rule - not even the idea - at all is mentioned in the entire Bible: Pray when there is a reason or a need or a wish. One of the 100% for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god. Also see 23/9b above.
179 22/78m: "- - - (Allah is*) the Best to protect and the Best to help!". In the entire history of Islam, there exists not one single really proved case of protection by Allah, and not one single really proved case of help from Allah. Guess if Islam had told you, if such a case had existed!
180 22/78n: "- - - (Allah is*) the Best to protect and the Best to help!". Well, he may have a competitor f.x. in Yahweh - if Yahweh exists (and even more so if Allah on top does not exist).
4097 + 180 = 4277 remarks.
Not formed like questions for proofs, but what needs to be proved normally easy to see all the same. And: References you do not find here, go to "1000+ Comments on the Quran".
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