1000+ Claims in the Quran - Invalid Unless Proven,

Surah 19


SURAH 19: Maryam (Mary)

(Mecca, 614-615 AD)


001  "In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful". Please read the surahs from Medina, the immoral parts of the Muslim moral code, the unjust/immoral parts of sharia, and the Quran's rules for lying, thieving/looting, enslaving, raids and wars, plus the rules for treatment of girls and women - free and captives - and see if you agree. Always when there is a distance between words and corresponding demands and deeds, we personally believe in the demands and deeds. Glorious words are cheap, demands and deeds are reliable. Glorifying words and claims are too cheap for anyone to use and disuse - when you read, judge from realities, not from propaganda.

002 19/4c: "(Zakariyya prayed*): O my Lord (here indicated Allah*)!" Zakariyya was a Jewish priest, and not only a priest, but a priest in the Temple in Jerusalem, in a period when religion was very strong in Israel. We also are at a time from which we have written documents (f.x. Josephus Flavius just few a years later, and also by Tacitus, Suetonius, and Plinius the younger - these four f.x. mentioned Jesus, just mentioned, but mentioned - and several others.), so the strength of the Jewish religious society is no guesswork - it is written facts. Not one single Jewish priest would ever get the idea of praying to the Arab pagan god al-Lah (whom Muhammad later only named Allah). And if he did, he hardly would survive many days. And as we now have entered times with quite solid written history, there also is not the slightest doubt that the Jewish god was Yahweh, not Allah. And we know for sure that the Jewish religion, its ceremonies, and its basic thoughts at this time were in accordance with OT, and very far from what Muslim later outlined in the Quran.

A Jewish priest around year 1 BC in the very Temple of Jerusalem praying to the pagan god of a neighboring country!!? Anyone knowing history will have a good laugh here.

003 19/4d: "(Zakariyya prayed*): O my Lord (here indicated Allah*)! According to the Bible his god was Yahweh, not Allah. The same according to historical facts.

004 19/4e: "Praying (here wrongly indicated to Allah*) - - -". Why pray to Allah if everything is predestined, like the Quran states many places? Nobody and nothing can change Allah's predestined plan, so what is then the idea with prayers?

005 19/7b: “- - - his (Zakariyya's son's*) name shall be Yahya (John*): on none by that name We (Allah*) have conferred distinction before”. But Johanan (Hebrew for John), son of Kareah, was a distinguished man in 2. Kings, 25/23. From relevant history also were the priest-king John Hyrcanus and the general John the Essene. There both were many Johns and men of distinction named John before John the Baptist. In addition our sources say that the word “distinction” is not in the Arab edition, but added by Yusuf Ali to circumvent an obvious mistake, as the name John was far from unknown in Hebrew. (Yusuf Ali’s comment 2461). Other translators – f.x. Muhammad Azad in “The Message of the Quran” – say in his comments to the point that the exact translation is (translated from Swedish): “We (Allah*) have never before named anybody with his (John the Baptist’s*) name (= John*) before”. But the name John is mentioned 27 times in OT = before John the Baptist – it was a quite common name. The claim simply is wrong.

To add words not to clarify things in the Quran, but to hide errors tell something ugly. It also tells that it is not the truth which counts for some Muslim scholars, but to make the Quran look truthful. But if there is a next life, what is more essential than to find the real truth behind religion - and which one(s) may be true and which not? If there is a next life and the Quran is a made up book, Muslims will pay a terrible price for Muhammad's and their other leaders good days on Earth, and for their own flight from meeting perhaps hard and unwanted truths.

Well, this baby grew up to a man who prepared Israel for Jesus – John the Baptist – half a year older than Jesus only, but as Jesus only started his preaching 30 years old, John anyhow had time to talk about one who was to come shortly.

006 19/11c: "- - - he (Zachariah*) told them (the people around*) by signs to celebrate Allah's praises - - -". Both the Quran and the Bible tell Zachariah was a Jewish priest, and the Bible in addition tells that he got his message in the Temple (Luke 1/9-11), and you can be both 100% and 1000% sure of that a Jewish priest performing a sermon in the Temple in Jerusalem in the year 2 or 1 BC (or actually ca. 6 - 7 BC as the international chronology is some 4-6 years wrong, and this message happened ca. 15 months before Jesus was born) did not ask ANYONE praise the pagan god al-Lah from a neighboring country - he on top of the impossibilities had been killed immediately. Jewish priest in the very Temple of Jerusalem praying to the pagan god of a neighboring country!!? Anyone knowing history will have a good laugh here - if it is not too far out even for a laugh.

Muslims will try to explain the name with that Allah just is the Arab name for Yahweh/God, but that clearly is not true, as the teachings are too different - especially between NT including its New Covenant and the Quran - and remember: If Muslims try to explain away the differences with their never documented claims about falsifications in the Bible, science has long since proved this untrue, and Islam has proved it even stronger by being unable to find any falsified relevant old scripture at all (if Muslims still insists, they will have to produce proofs, not just loose claims, which is all they have produced until this day).

####One more fact: We are now in times of written history. We know - know - that the Mosaic religion was very strong in Israel around the time of Jesus. A priest in the Temple preaching Allah/al-Lah - a known pagan god from a neighboring people - would 5 minutes later be no priest any more, and likely not alive shortly after. We also know that there was no god like Allah and no religion like Islam in the entire Roman Empire at that time - and not until well after 610 AD.

#007 19/12: "- - - the Book - - -". At this time only the old Jewish scriptures existed. All the same the Quran may indicate an older copy of the claimed "mother book" in Heaven = a book similar to the Quran. A book - included a Gospel - they claimed existed when Jesus was born, so that Jesus could read it. If it was not because we know we have many non-Christian readers - f.x. Hindus and actually some Muslims - we had said "no comments". But we add that a Gospel is the history of Jesus' birth, life, death, resurrection, and ascension to Heaven, so most likely it had been very interesting reading for Jesus and all other Jews and others to read when Jesus was a child and before - before it all happened. Physically impossible - Muhammad just claimed Jesus read it as a child, but like so often Muhammad did not know what he was talking about (he knew the name Gospel, but obviously did not know what it really was - he did not know the Bible much). And for another thing it is a historical fact that even the oldest of the Gospels - there are 4 - was not written until a small generation after Jesus was killed.

008 19/13-15: This - and most of the details in 19/4-12 - is not from the Bible.

##009 19/16c: "- - - she (Mary*) withdrew (just before her message*) from her family to a place in the East (where she got her message*) - - -." Here Muslims have an interesting theory: Remember that Muhammad and the Quran say her mother dedicated her to service in the Temple (in Jerusalem). Because of this the "East" mentioned here, must be "a private eastern chamber, perhaps in the Temple".

####What we have never heard any Muslim mention - even though it is such a well known fact that at least all mullahs, imams, Ayatollahs, and whatever + all other scholars, have to know it (also because it is quite similar in Islam) - is that no women served in the Temple. Only men - and only men of the Levi tribe - served there (Mary was from the Judah tribe). No Muslim ever mentions these facts, neither in this connection, nor connected to the claim that her mother dedicated her to service in the Temple.

A brutal mistake in the Quran too difficult to face?

010 19/16d: "- - - she (Mary*) withdrew from her family - - -". How was that possible if she was in the Temple in Jerusalem and they in Nazareth a few hundred miles/km to the north?

011 19/16-34: "- - - (the story of) Mary - - -". To be short: The story of Mary in the Quran is not even distantly related to the same one in the Bible. (The tales in the Quran mainly are from legends known at that time + from some apocryphal (made up) scriptures - most of the sources are known even today). No god would rely on made up stories and fairy tales.

012 19/17-21: These (and more) details are not in the Bible. From where did Muhammad get them? As the Quran is not from a god, the alternatives are: From dark forces, from a mental illness (like TLE - Temporal Lobe Epilepsy - like modern medical science suspects) or from a scheming brain.

#013 19/18c: “- - - I (Mary, mother of Jesus*) seek refuge from thee to (Allah) Most Gracious: (come not near) if thou dost fear Allah”. It is highly unlikely that a Jew - and especially one working in Yahweh's temple (though this is another piece of contradiction in the Quran to the Bible and to historical facts, as she lived in Nazareth according to the Bible, days away from Jerusalem (Luke 1/26-27) - should seek refuge from a then highly polytheistic god from another country. As one see from what happened to Jesus, the monotheism and Yahweh were strong in Israel at that time. If the Quran had been telling the truth when it tells that Mary was working in the Temple, it is absolutely impossible - she had got into serious troubles if she addressed any other god than Yahweh (but then the Quran most likely is wrong also on this point - We have found nothing about Mary working in the Temple in the Bible or any other source, and if it had been true, most or all Christian sources had mentioned it, as it would mean one more connection between Jesus and Yahweh. (Actually it is incorrect that she worked in the Temple. This legend is taken from the apocryphal - made up - “’proto gospel’ after Jacob” - - - but Muslims all the same tell that the differences between the Quran and the Bible is because the bad non-Muslims have falsified the latter one – not because Muhammad ever so often used twisted fairy tales as basis for stories in the Quran.) Our Muslim sources also do not mention if there exists any other reliable source for this story in the Quran - which Islam frequently does not do when they have no sources, only statements built on nothing or, like here, on what legends and stories and fairy tales the story-tellers told in long evenings. Her work in the Temple simply is a fairy tale shined up and used like a true story in the Quran (this even more so as out sources tell that all workers in the Temple were men) - by Allah or by Muhammad, and presumably sent down from Allah and copy from the Mother Book in Heaven, a book perhaps made by Allah, but most likely - according to Islam - never made, but existed from eternity (impossible as angels are speaking at least one place in the book - it must be made after the first angels were created. Not to mention that Muhammad speaks some 8 places in the book).

You are free to believe it if you want.

014 19/19: “He (the angel*) said: ‘Nay, I am only a messenger from thy (Mary’s*) Lord - - -“. But contradictions:

12/109: “Nor did we send before thee (humanity, man*) (as Messengers) any but men.”

16/43: “And before thee (Muhammad*) also the Messengers we sent were but men - - -“.

21/7: “Before thee (Muhammad*), also, the messengers we sent were but men”.

25/20: “And the messengers whom We (Allah*) sent before thee were all (men) - - -.”

Well, 3/42 - 6/130 - 11/69 – 11/77 – 11/81– 19/17b – 19/19 – 22/75 all say that not all were men. A nice little contradiction to 12/109 – 16/43 – 21/7 – 25/20 which all says all messengers were men.

(4 contradictions).



Muhammad very far from was anything holy.

####################If the Quran is not lying here, it is impossible that Muhammad was a greater prophet than Jesus - a mere human impossible can be greater than someone holy. And as Muhammad quoted also hit verse, he knew he was dishonest/lying when he claimed to be the greatest.

A L S O S E E 66/12c B E L O W !!!!


016 ¨ 19/28a: “(Mary*) O sister of Aaron!” This is another contradiction to the Bible + at the same time the most famous mistake in the Quran. The likely reason is that in Arab the names Mary (the mother of Jesus) and Miriam (the sister of Moses and Aaron) both are written Maryam. Muhammad was not well versed in the Bible, and thought it was the same woman, even though some 1200 years separated them. The Hadith tells that Muhammad was told by his followers that he was wrong, and tried to explain away the mistake, but without real success. Muslims today tend to “explain” the blunder by saying it was an age-old way of paying respect to a woman to connect her to a person of high standard - and similar “explanations” - but the “explanations” generally are not accepted by science, even not by all Muslim scientists - this may be partly because Muhammad also has made the father of Moses, Imran, the father of Mary another place in the Quran. (This last fact is by some Muslims “explained” with that they are two different Imrans. But also this is not accepted by the science, as it is clear that it in both cases it is the same man it is talked about - the founder of “Imran’s house” or Imran’s tribe. It also would be much of a coincidence that for one thing Mary just was an honorable descendant of Moses' parents, and that the name of her father should happen to be Imran. Well, unlikely explanations sometimes happen to be correct, but there are too many unlikely "explanations" in the Quran). Some Muslims say it is an allegory, but it clearly is not told like an allegory – to call stories that turns out to be wrong allegories also is a standard Muslim way of explaining away difficult points when other “explanations” fail. And remember: Both the Quran and Islam strains that the Quran is to be understood literally if nothing else is said. Allegories, etc., also have points very easy to see, or are explained (which is not the case here) if Muhammad had intended to make a point of something. A clear mistake according to science. This is even more clear as Hadith tells Mohammad himself was unaware he had made a mistake, and is told to try unsuccessfully to explain it away when he was corrected by his nearest co-workers

Also see 19/28 in “Mistaken facts in the Quran” in "1000+ Mistakes in the Quran". Contradicting historical(?) facts – it is not even denied by Islam that there were a long time between Moses and Jesus (and thus between Miriam and Mary).

#017 19/29c: "How can we (Mary's parents*) talk to one who is a child in the cradle?" Nearly all points in the story of the birth of Jesus - included this - are totally different in the Quran compared to the Bible - and the thought-provoking fact is that one can recognize most of the tales in the Quran about this, from known made up stories and legends.

##018 19/30b: “I (baby Jesus*) am indeed a servant of Allah, - - -”. See 3/51 above.

##019 19/30c: “(Allah has*) given me revelations and made me (the baby Jesus*) a prophet - - -”. #####Even Islam (f.x. the learned Ikrimah, quoted by Tabari) accepts the impossibility that a baby is a prophet, but the explaining it away is vague and hypothetical. A very clear mistake. This even more so as there is not one single chance that this wonder had been forgotten in or omitted from NT if it had been true. Actually this is one of the points where many Muslim scholars accept there is a mistake in the Quran. (Actually it is generally accepted by Islam to be wrong.)

##020 19/30-33a: The newly born baby Jesus is continuing talking and discussing in his cradle. Also this is “borrowed” from apocryphal (made up) Child Gospels - in this case as far as we know via “The Arab Child Gospel” - called “The first Gospel of the Infancy of Jesus Christ” – an apocryphal scripture from 2. century. There is not a single chance that a wonder like this had been omitted from the Bible, as it would have strengthened Jesus’ position quite a lot. This even more so as there are not many tales about Jesus as a child, and this story would have made that part of his life less blank. Once more a fairy tale used like a true story by Allah or Muhammad. Even a book like “The Message of the Quran” is not able to defend this as a true story, but it only offers speculations and presumptions to explain away the impossibility.

"The Message of the Quran" (A19/24 – in 2008 edition A19/23): As baby Jesus impossibly could be a prophet, there has to be other explanations, according to the Muslim scholars. As said: ONE MORE PLACE WHERE MUSLIM SCHOLARS AGREE THAT SOMETHING MUST BE WRONG IN THE QURAN.

A very clearly not true story - a clear mistake. These parts of the story about the birth of Jesus are so far out/silly, that they are not even really worth a laugh.

We have never met a Muslim explaining why the Quran often took its stories from well known, but made up legends and fairy tales, and then explained the differences from the Bible by insisting that the Bible is faked. And the use of old stories clearly is the reason why the old Arabs chided Muhammad for "just telling old tales" - and they were right, as he simply copied old stories.

Not much is said about the childhood of Jesus neither in the Bible nor in the Quran. In the Bible his childhood mostly seems to have been a normal childhood with a few exceptions, but in the Quran he was very early prepared for being or becoming a prophet by studying the Gospel (which did not exist at that time - and could not exist).

021 19/30-33b (A19/24) – in 2008 edition A19/23): A similar case as 18/84 above: The baby Jesus impossibly could be a prophet, this even according to Islam. There has to be other explanations, according to the Muslim scholars. But no real explanation given.

022 19/31b: " - - - Prayer - - -". Is there at all any meaning in prayers to Allah, if everything is Planned and predestined long time before, and impossible to change, like the Quran states many places?


023 19/33b: "- - - the day I (Jesus*) die, and the day I shall be raised up to life (again) - - -". Here Islam has a problem: They claim he did not die on the cross, but was taken up to the god alive. How come that he then here foresees his death - and his resurrection?? (NB: No matter if Jesus died on the cross and was resurrected, or was taken up to Heaven alive, it proves his connection to something supernatural (if true). No such proof exists neither for Allah, nor for Muhammad.) But if he did not die, but was taken up alive, he did not die, and then something is wrong here - here or in other never proved claims.

When long stories are made up, it is difficult to remember all details or implicate them on the right places. Is this what was the case here?


024 19/34a: “Such (was) Jesus the son of Mary: (it is) a statement of truth, about which they (vainly) dispute”. We are back to what is the truth in the Quran - with all the mistakes it is a difficult question. What is sure is that Jesus did not say he was a servant of the known polytheistic, foreign god al-Lah/Allah from neighboring Arabia (in that case he had had very few followers and had been killed much earlier), and that he called God/Yahweh “father”. In this case the text refers to verses 30 through 33 (see 19/30a, 19/30b, 19/30-33 just above), which already are shown to be clear mistakes. Another clear mistake.

025 19/34c: "- - - Jesus the son of Mary - - -". See 5/110a above.

#026 19/34d: “- - - (it is) a statement of truth - - -". This an interesting claim: A story without sources given - actually with a wrong source given (so much is wrong in the Quran, that it is not from a god). A story clearly taken from known made up legends, etc. A story wildly different from the only possible more or less true known story. A story contradicted by known historical facts (f.x. Mary's claimed service in the Temple - where only men, and only from the Levi tribe, served). A story going against several laws of nature. Etc.

This story the Quran strongly states is a statement of truth.

If the Quran strongly claims such stories are the truth, what then about other "truths" or "proofs" or claims in the book?

Thought provoking.

027 19/35a: “It is not befitting to (the majesty of) Allah that He should beget a son”. We hope it really is the god that is talking here, because if it is Muhammad; how is a human to know what is befitting for a god? - and majesties often have children - many children. F.x. Ramses II had 67 sons (well, the number varies some from one source to another) and an unknown number of daughters, and Djengis Khan had so many children that science still can trace his DNA in Asia (source: New Scientist). And if this statement is true, there is the enigma of Jesus’ saying “father” and “my father” about Yahweh (the word “father” (of Jesus) is used at least 204 times in the Bible, and the word “son” at least 89 times about the relationship between Yahweh and Jesus according to our latest leafing through the Bible – frequently by Jesus himself) – both the Bible and the Quran says Jesus was honest - and science has shown that the Bible is not falsified in spite of Islam's never documented claims. (Also remember: Muhammad calls Yahweh Allah, as he insists it is the same god - something that is possible only if Yahweh/Allah is schizophrenic, as there are too many and too grave differences between the two teachings.) Also see 19/92 – 37/152 – 37/180 below.


028 19/35b: “It is not befitting to (the majesty of) Allah that He should beget a son”. Why not?

029 19/35c: "- - - He (Allah*) only says to it, 'Be', and it is." May be Yahweh only said "Be a son", and Jesus was.

##030 19/36b: “Verily Allah is my (Muhammad’s*) Lord and your (Muslims’*) Lord - - -“. This is a serious one: Here clearly it is Muhammad himself – Muhammad the man - who is speaking. How is that possible in a book made by a god before the universe was created or may be one which has existed since eternity, and a copy of a revered Mother Book sent down from Heaven by Allah? (There are a few mistakes (?) like this (8?) in the Quran – see 6/114a.)

If Muhammad is speaking in the Quran - and he clearly does at least 8 places according to our sources - not all the words in the Quran are from Allah. How many are?

But then it definitely is no proved verity/truth that Allah really is a god, and if he in case is correctly described in the Quran.

031 19/36c: "- - - a Way that is straight". But leading where? To Paradise if Allah exists and is correctly described in the Quran - but remember here that the Quran with all its mistakes, etc. is not from any god - no omniscient god makes mistakes. To nowhere if Allah is something made up by humans. To Hell if Allah is made up and there somewhere is a benevolent real god Muslims have been prohibited from looking for. Not to mention where it leads if Allah belongs to the dark forces and just has cheated Muhammad - too many facts for comfort may fit that theory.

032 19/38a: "- - - the Day that they (people*) will appear before Us (Allah*)". Only if Allah exists, is a major god, and everything is correctly described in the Quran.

033 19/38b: "- - - the Day that they (people*) will appear before Us (Allah*)". The Day of Doom. That is will be Allah who rules that day, is one more of the innumerable never proved claims in the Quran.

034 19/38d: "But the unjust (= non-Muslims*) today are in error manifest!" Yes, if Allah exists, if Allah is behind the Quran, and if the Quran is telling all and only the truth - - - and if they do not believe in a god which really exits.

035 19/38e: "But the unjust (= non-Muslims*) today are in error manifest!" If Allah and Islam are made up, the immoral parts of the Muslim moral and ethical codes plus the immoral and/or unjust parts of the sharia laws make Muslims belong to this group - the Muslims. If Allah does not exist, and the Quran is made up - and it at least is from no god - Islam and the Muslims at many points were and are very unjust.

036 19/40a: "It is We (Allah*) Who will inherit the earth - - -". A claim - like "always" in the Quran not proved, and in this case also not provable except by supernatural means (which should be no problem for Allah).

037 19/0b: "- - - to Us (Allah*) will they (people*) all be returned!" If Allah exists, if he is a major god (well, also possible if he is from the dark forces), and if he is correctly described in the Quran.

038 19/42b: "Why worship that which heareth not and seeth not, and can profit thee nothing?". In the Bible there is no report of any kind of religious strife neither between Abraham and his father, (on the contrary they travelled together and lived together till Abraham set out for Canaan at the age of 75 - 1. Mos. 12/4-5), nor between Abraham and the rest of their people. But Muhammad was pretty one-tracked - see how all his stories are built in the same way: Always conflict Muslim vs. non-Muslim and the Muslim coming out the winner or in Paradise, whereas the bad non-Muslims come out the losers or in Hell. The story of Abraham is pressed into the same stereotypic form: Conflict and triumph. In the Bible it is a much more varied story and a more complicated human person.

039 19/42-50: The story of Abram (name according to the Bible) - later named Abraham - in the Quran is entirely different from the one in the Bible. Entirely. Also see 19/48-49 below. AND: As the Bible is the only source for information about Abraham, and as it is clear the Quran is not from a god - too much is wrong - from where did Muhammad get this new information about Abraham?

Two curios: The Quran claims Abraham took his family and all his huge flocks of animals - he was rich - and went from Canaan or Sinai through the hot and forbidding and dry Arab Desert with little or no food or water for his animals, to a narrow, empty, desert valley without water (Mecca: 4/34 inch/110 mm a YEAR of rain and average temperature 31 centigrade) or grass, and in the middle of absolutely nowhere (practical no vegetation) and without any attractions, and lived there for at least long enough time to leave his son Ishmael and his concubine Hagar there.

The Quran further claims Abraham later built a big mosque in that dry, empty, narrow, desert valley - real desert - where Mecca is now, for his small family.

No Muslim ever mentions that there are some 750 miles - some 1200 km - between where he lived and Mecca, and much of it was harsh, forbidding, glowing desert where his livestock would die on the road - - - and a good Muslim shall visit his mosque at least each Friday. And no Muslim mentions that even though the camel likely was domesticated at the time of Abraham, it was not known except in the far south of Arabia at that time, and it is likely it was not used for riding until even later according to Wikipedia, so how could he travel that freely in the desert? Not to mention that no Muslim ever mention that no nomads had the technology necessary for building huge stone buildings.

Added 5. Apr. 2013 AD: Quoted from the Scandinavian newspaper Aftenposten published today, where professor emeritus (in physics) Redvald Skullerud says: "(It is claimed that Abraham*) used camels for transport some 1200 years before the camel was introduced as a transport animal in the area, when the Assyrians started trade with South Arabia". As you see it is an accepted scientific fact that even though the dromedary was domesticated and somewhat used in South Arabia, it was not introduced further north until a long time - 1ooo+ years - after Abraham, and then as a transport animal. To use it as a riding animal came even later. And without the camel, it would be impossible for Abraham to go back and forth between Canaan and the dry desert valley where Mecca later came - crossing rough and forbidding big deserts. Abraham's claimed connection to Mecca is an impossibility.

040 19/43d: "- - - a way that is even and straight". The claimed road to the Quran's and Islam's paradise - see 10/9f above.

041 19/44c: "- - - (Allah) Most Gracious". The underlying claim contradicted by the Bible, which says Abraham's god was Yahweh, not Allah. As there are found no sure traces in any kind of science or even in folklore of fairy tales anywhere in the world for that anyone at any time had heard about the god Allah, it also is highly unlikely Abraham had ever heard about him. Perhaps - perhaps - the pagan god al-Lah, but not the monotheistic Allah. Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

042 19/45b: "I (Abraham*) fear lest a Penalty afflict thee (Abraham's father Terah (Azar in the Quran)*) from (Allah) Most Gracious, so that thou become to Satan a friend". Comment (YA2497): "To entertain a feeling of friendliness, instead of aversion, to Evil, is in itself a degeneration of our nature, a Penalty which Allah imposes on our deliberate rejection of Truth. And the friendliness to Evil also implies the sharing of the outlawry of Evil". If you compare the basis for all real moral among humans, "Do onto others like you want others do onto you", with the Quran's moral code, you find a number of evil points in the Quran's moral and ethical codes. Also Muslims refuse to see the mistakes in the Quran, even the most obvious, and refuse to accept the truth on such points. They simply are friendly to these points.

What thoughts are pertinent and close by here?

043 19/47b; "- - - I (Abraham*) will pray to my lord (here indicated Allah*) for thy (his father's*) forgiveness - - -". Why? - if Allah predestines everything long before, and does so according to a Plan which nobody and nothing can change, like the Quran states many places, prayers have no meaning in Islam, as they cannot have any effect. (Similar goes for f.x. good and bad deeds, pilgrimage, punishment, etc. - Allah cannot react to it unless he changes his unchangeable Plan). A question Muslims never touch.

#044 19/49b: "- - - We (Allah*) bestowed on him (Abraham*) Isaac and Jacob - - -". Abraham got the son Isaac with his wife Sarah. It is strange that in 614 - 615 AD the Quran does not mention his son with Sarah's slave Hagar - Ishmael. Had Muhammad not yet got the idea of claiming ancestry from Abraham (via Ishmael?) - surah 19 is from 614-615 AD = early in Muhammad's preaching. We may also mention that 1. Mos. 25/1-2 and also 1. Chron. 1/32 says that Abraham took another wife/concubine and had 6 sons with her: "The sons born to Keturah, Abraham's concubine: Zimran, Jokshan, Medan, Midian, Ishbak and Shuah". Not mentioned in the Quran. Had Muhammad claimed ancestry via one of these, his claim had been stronger, because little is said about where they ended. But most likely he never knew about these sons of Abraham. (To claim to be descendants via an Ishmael living in Mecca, is hopeless if the stories in the Bible are true - and at the time when they were written down, there was no reason for the Jews not to be honest about this - because the place where it is told Abraham left Hagar, is some 750 miles/1200 km from the dry, empty desert valley where Mecca later came (1. Mos. 20/14), and the place it tells Ishmael settled is even a little further off (1. Mos. 25/18). And the track form those places to the nowhere, empty, narrow desert valley of later Mecca was for large parts through harsh and forbidding hot desert - - - and without any attractions giving the least reason to go there.

045 19/49c: "- - - each of them (Isaac and Jacob We (Allah*) made a prophet". In the Bible they are 2 of the 3 patriarchs of the Jews (Abraham was the first), but they are not named prophets in the Bible. More essential: According to the Bible they were connected to Yahweh, not to Allah.

046 19/52: "(The god called Moses at*) Mount (Sinai) - - -". According to the Bible this happened near Mount Horeb (2. Mos. 3/1). But also Mt. Horeb is in Sinai (actually science reckons that Mt. Hebron and Mt. Sinai are two names for the same mountain).

##################Another point is that as Mt. Sinai as naturally is situated in Sinai (today Jabal Musa, 34 degrees east, 28.5 degrees east. Roughly 70 km north northwest from Sharm-el-Sheik (Sharm el Shaykh) far south in central Sinai. Also the Islam confirms that it was here Moses met his god and got the mission to take the Jews out from Egypt. This is far from Madyan in Arabia), The Quran here confirms that Muhammad's Midian was in Sinai, not in northeast Arabia You find the same confirmation in 19/52

047 19/53c: "- - - Aaron, (also) a prophet - - -". Moses was a prophet also in the Bible - it is said so in f.x. 5. Mos. 18/15 and 18/18 - but Aaron is nowhere treated like or behaved like or was called a prophet there.

048 19/54c: "- - - he (Ishmael*) was a messenger (and) a prophet". Not one word about this in the Bible, and these parts of the Bible (1. Mos.) were written at least 1ooo years before Muhammad (and not falsified according to science, nor according to proofs from Islam) - which means at least 1ooo years before there even was any reason for falsifying it.

049 19/54d: "- - - a messenger (and) a prophet". In the Bible you hardly see this distinction, as the word "messenger" hardly is used as a title, but in the Quran and in Islam it of some essence. You meet Muslims telling you that a prophet only is a prophet, whereas a messenger is something much more - though no Muslim has ever been able to tell us what the superiority of being a messenger is. In normal language it is the other way around: A prophet is distinct title telling about a close connection to a god. Whereas a messenger only is someone who brings a message - something the messenger even may know nothing about or do not understand - from one place to another. One reason for this claim about the superiority of being a messenger, may be that Muhammad in reality was no prophet - he never in his entire life made a real prophesy, and a prophet unable to make prophesies is no real prophet. Muhammad knew this, and Islam knows it - and then messenger is a safer title than prophet (which many could question). Another fact is that Muhammad in reality was a doubtful character - just look at his claims and deeds and introduced rules, etc. - and they need to "enlarge" him to something even better than the old prophets, as all Islam rests only on this man's rather suspect words, moral and integrity. An imposing title kills some questions, so make the title imposing.

Also: In the Bible the original title was not "a prophet", but "a seer" - one who was able to see the unseen and thus make prophesies. F.x. Muhammad according to the Quran was unable to see/know this, and thus unable to make prophesies (f.x. 3/144, 6/50, 7/88, 10/20, 27/65, 46/9, 72/26, 81/24). This means that whenever Islam or Muslims claim Muhammad made prophesies, they indirectly, but clearly claim that the Quran is wrong on these points (there are similar points for that Muhammad was unable to make miracles - f.x. 3/144, 7/188, 10/49, 17/93, 72/21).

050 19/54-55: These stories in the Quran are not from the Bible - and there existed no other source except for legends, fairy tales etc.

051 19/58c: "- - - those (Jewish prophets*) whom We (Allah*) guided - - -". One cannot guide anyone very much with something similar to the Quran with all its mistakes, etc., and according to the Quran that was what Allah had to offer his claimed prophets. Besides: Neither science, nor Islam has found any traces indicating a god like Allah, a religion like Islam, or a book like the Quran existing during the times of the Jewish prophets, included during the times of Jesus. Not until after 610 AD when Muhammad started his mission.

052 19/58f: "- - - they (the old Jewish prophets*) would fall down in prostration (indicated to Allah*) and tears". As Allah had no connections to the Jewish prophets, also this part of the claim is untrue according to the Bible. And not least according to history: We know strongly from history that the god of the Jews was Yahweh, and nothing like Allah was involved.

053 19/60d: "- - - (good Muslims*) will not be wronged in the least - - -". If Allah exists and is a major god, and if everything is correctly described in the Quran. The question may be different if the Quran is a made up book - and it at least is not from any god with all its errors.

054 19/61c: "- - - (Allah) Most Gracious - - -". Read the Quran, but skip the nice, glorifying words. Read instead what Allah demands and does and his rules and his moral and ethical codes, to get a true picture of him. Is he "Most Gracious"?

###############055 19/61d: "- - - His (Allah's) promise must (necessarily) come to pass". Till this day there has not been one single promise clearly given by Allah, and which clearly has been fulfilled by him. The best proof for that this fact is true, is the noise Islam had made if it had happened even once. Nobody has ever heard such noise.

#############################There also is another point here: It is very clear from the Quran that Muhammad accepted, himself used, and also promoted the use of dishonesty as working tools, if that would give better results than honesty (al-Taqiyya, Kitman., Hilah, deceit, betrayal, and even disuse/breaking of oaths). These verses are included and accepted parts of the Quran and of Islam, as samples of how intelligent and smart Muhammad was. BUT KNOWING THIS, IT IS UTTER NAIVETY TO BELIEVE THAT A MAN WITH THAT KIND OF "FLEXIBLE" MORAL CODE, NEVER USED DISHONESTY ALSO TO MAKE HIS FOLLOWERS DO WHAT HE WANTED.

056 19/62: "They will not there hear any vain discourse, but only salutations of Peace - - -". No mental activity in Paradise - not even debating. If man is resurrected in body and brain, this sounds like a terribly boring place to us - and that is very literally and honest meant. Only eating, drinking and sex for pastime? Also see 10/9f above.

057 19/63a: "Such is the Garden We (Allah*) give (to good Muslims*) - - -". See 10/9f above.

058 19/63b: "Such is the Garden We (Allah*) give (to good Muslims*) - - -". It is very different from the garden given to believers in Yahweh, according to the Bible - VERY different. One of the at least 110% proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god.

059 19/64: "- - - (Allah*) never doth forget - - -". Why does he then so many places in the Quran need a book or a record?

060 19/65a: "(Allah is*) Lord of the heavens (plural and wrong*) and of the earth - - -". Often claimed, never proved - one of the many never documented claims in the Quran, any believer in any religion can make on behalf of his/her god(s) free of charge, as long as any claim for proof can be evaded, as words are that cheap.

061 19/65d: "- - - so worship Him (Allah*) - - -". The only claims for his existence are only based on the words on a man clearly described as having a very doubtful moral and plainly, too, he accepted and believed in the use of dishonesty - and a man wanting power and riches for more power - and women. Normally such men are shunned and their tales disbelieved, but if you mix religion into it, not a few of them have succeeded to an astonishing degree.

062 19/65e: "- - - be constant and patient in His worship - - -". As he till now never clearly has reacted to worship - lots of claims, but no proved case - patience may be necessary, yes.

063 19/65f: "- - - knowest thou of any who is worth of the same Name as He (Allah*)" We honestly do not know if he is worthy a name at all, as there never was a proof neither for his existence, nor for his power - only lofty words. And then there is the recurring question of Yahweh, which the Quran admits existed, but who is not the same god as Allah as the basics of the religions are too different - - - and the excuse about falsified Bible is invalid as science - and Islam (by never finding a falsified document among the very many relevant old ones) - has proved this untrue.

064 19/66: "What! When I (a man*) am dead, shall I then be raised alive". A second life was hardly a surprise for an old Arab - if they were not strong in that belief themselves, they knew other religions were. But Muhammad claimed regeneration in body, which is a bit much. (But as the Muslim Paradise mainly has bodily pleasures, a bodily resurrection is necessary.)

065 19/67a: “But does not man call to mind that We (Allah*) created him - - -". Often claimed, never proved - - - and contradicting science.

066 19/67b: “But does not man call to mind that We (Allah*) created him out of nothing?” This contradicts all the other places in the Quran where it is told about the creation of man, and that tell that man/Adam was created out of some material or other.

For one thing this just is one more of the Quran's very many never proved claims, and for another this is contradicted by 6/2, 7/12, 17/61, 32/7, 38/71, and 38/76 which tell man/Adam was made from clay, 15/26, 15/26, and 15/33 that tell man/Adam was made from sounding clay, 55/14 that tells man/Adam was made from ringing clay, 37/11 that tells man/Adam was made from sticky clay, 23/12, that tells man/Adam was made from essence of clay, 15/26, 15/28, and 15/33 that tells man/Adam was made from mud, 3/59, 22/5, 35/11, 40/67, that tell man/Adam was made from dust, 20/55 that tells man/Adam was made from earth, 96/2 that tells man/Adam was made from a clot of congealed blood, 16/4, 75/37, 76/2, 80/19, that tell man/Adam was made from semen (without explaining from where the semen came), 21/30, 24/45, and 25/54 that tells man/Adam was made from water (NB! NB! Not in water, but from water!), 70/39 that tells man/Adam was made from “base material”. (Also see verse 6/2 in the book about the 1000+ mistakes in the Quran.) (Strictly reckoned this contradicts 29 other verses. But minimum 15 contradictions.)

067 19/68b: “So, by thy Lord (Allah*), without doubt - - -”. With all the mistakes, etc. in the Quran, there are good reasons for doubts.

068 19/68c: “So, by thy Lord (Allah*), without doubt, We (Allah*) shall gather them (people*) together (at the Day of Doom*)- - -”. The old fact: This only is true if Allah exists and is a major god, and if everything is correctly described in the Quran. Because of all the errors in the Quran, there are strong and reasonable doubts for this, like said.

069 19/68e: "- - - then shall We (Allah*) bring them (people*) on their knees round about Hell - - -". See 3/77b above.

070 19/69a: "Then We (Allah*) shall certainly drag out from every sect all those who were worst - - -". This just is a claim, not a certainty, among other facts because exactly nothing is proved neither about Allah's existence, nor about his power - or if he in case belongs to the dark forces. And everything is built only on claims from a man of very suspect moral and reliability according even to the realities - not the glorious words, but the realities - in central Islamic books. The only fact which is certain, is that if he is behind the Quran and all its mistakes, etc., Allah is no god.

##071 19/69c: "- - - obstinate rebellion against (Allah) - - -". Opposition against Islam is not rebellion if Allah does not exist, or for other reasons is not a god. The same if he does exist, and even if he in case is a god, but is not correctly described among all the mistakes in the Quran. Not to mention if he exists, but is part of the dark forces, which a number to points in the Quran and also in its moral code may indicate. Then opposition is pure common sense.

072 19/69d: "- - - (Allah) Most Gracious - - -". Read the Quran, but skip the nice, glorifying words. Read instead what Allah demands and does and his rules and his moral and ethical codes, to get a true picture of him. Is he "Most Gracious"?

073 19/70a: "And certainly We (Allah*) know best those who are most worthy of being burned therein". Allah knows absolutely everything - - - but he needs books, records and tests. Why? Also see 2/233h above.

074 19/71a: “Not one of you but will pass over it (possibly the bridge Sirat - to be passed the Last Day*)”. Very similar to Zoroastrian (Persia - with whom Arabia had much contact), where the bridge is named Chinavad. Nearly all religious ideas in Islam, seems to be taken from local and surrounding religions - typical for a universal god? Also see 55/56 below

075 19/71d: "- - - a Decree which must be accomplished". The predestination - What Allah has decided must happen, because his Plan cannot be changed by anyone or anything.

076 19/72a: "But We (Allah*) shall save those who guarded against evil - - -". Not possible unless he exists and is a god.

077 19/72d: "- - - and We (Allah*) shall leave the wrongdoers therein (in Hell*) - - -". Similar answer to 19/72a above, except that this is possible also if he belongs to the dark forces.

078 19/72g: "- - - (humbled) to their (non-Muslims'*) knees". See 3/77b above.

079 19/73d: "Which of the two sides is best in point of position?" May well be some unbelievers said so. It also is clear that it was psychologically a good thing to tell the followers, because it was an ok way to gloss over the fact that many opponents simply saw that things were wrong in the new religion. Also slander is a weapon against opponents - a dirty weapon, but a weapon.

080 19/74a: "But how many (countless) generations before them have We (Allah*) destroyed - - -?" Benevolent god?

081 19/75a: "If any men go astray (do not accept Muhammad and his new religion*), (Allah) - - - extends (the rope) to them - - -". Muhammad's standard explanation for why some non-Muslims had a good life, whereas some Muslims had a bad one - it was the will of Allah. And also one of his standard and easy explanations for that many did not believe him - Allah's will. But take a heart and be glad; he will punish them in the end.

082 19/75d: "- - - (who (is*)) weakest in forces". (A19/64 - translated from Swedish): "Literally: '- - - weaker in the question of troops/military forces'". The interesting point here is that in the English 2008 edition this is changed to (A19/60): "Literally: '- - - in property' or 'abundance of property'". The "Religion of Peace" and "the Religion of Truth" becoming more correct? One may wonder why Islam seldom uses the claim "Islam is the Religion of Honesty"?

083 19/76a: "- - - Allah doth advance in guidance those who seek guidance - - -". The old fact: Not possible unless Allah exists and in addition is a god. Well, he may guide even if he is from the dark forces (parts of the religion, its moral code, etc. perhaps may indicate this.)

084 19/76c: "- - - Good Deeds - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses expressions like this, it is meant in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code - f.x. is going on raids and to war and steal, kill and suppress for the benevolent and good god Allah, for Muhammad and for his successors, among the very best deeds, and to rape female victims included children (at least down to 9 years old) is "lawful and good".

085 19/77b: "- - - wealth and children - - -". In those times children - mainly sons - was a source of status and power, and of security when old. Because of the inflexibility of the Quran this point of view is forever frozen, also now far into a time when we are becoming too many on Earth. A problem made even worse because many Muslim leaders and clergy see many children as a means to outnumber members of other religions and take the power, and this is more essential than to keep the population on a level Earth can support.

086 19/79a: "- - - We (Allah*) shall record - - -". Why does a predestining, omniscient god need a record?

087 19/79b: "- - - and We (Allah*) shall add and add to his (non-Muslim's*) punishment". Similar often claimed, never proved. See 3/77b above.

088 19/80a: "To Us (Allah*) shall return all that he (non-Muslim*) talks and he shall appear before Us bare and alone". If Allah exists and is a major god, and if the Quran has told everything correctly. Often claimed, never proved.

089 19/81a: "And they (non-Muslims*) have taken gods other than Allah - - -". If they saw some of all the mistakes, contradictions etc, in the Quran, they had a reason for this. If Allah in addition does not exist - for which there is a number of reasons to suspect - they had a good reason. And if they on top of all themselves believed in a real god (if such one exists), they really made a lucky choice.

090 19/82: "Instead they (the false gods*) shall reject their (non-Muslims*) worship, and become adversaries against them". At the Day of Doom the false gods gets life and accuses their "followers". But what about Allah if he just is a made up mental idol?

091 19/83a: "Seest thou (Muhammad/Muslims*) not that We (Allah*) have set the Satan against the Unbelievers, to incite them with fury?". Consequently you fight Satan when you fight non-Muslims - they are bad and you fight for the good cause. This is the intended meaning, but there is an additional piece of information: By leaving the non-Muslims in the care of the Devil, the Quran robs them of the possibility of finding the way to Paradise "in the 11. hour". But then the Quran never minds others than the main persons; the good Muslim, and preferably the willing warriors. Empathy or sympathy, not to mention love. with others than the main persons and their nearest families, hardly exist in the Quran - a very serious difference to the NT. Yahweh and Allah the same god?. No - simply and plainly no. The same for Jesus and Muhammad in the same religion.

092 19/83b: "Seest thou (Muhammad/Muslims*) not that We (Allah*) have set the Satan against the Unbelievers, to incite them with fury?". An interesting claim - impossible if Allah does not exist, but doubly possible if he exists and belongs to the dark forces (if he is behind the Quran and all its errors, he at least is no god).

093 19/84a: "So make no haste against them (non-Muslims*) - - -". This was around 615 AD. But when Muhammad started to gain real strength, he also started to make haste against non-Muslims. This verse is abrogated – made invalid - and contradicted by at least these verses: 2/191, 2/193, 3/38, 3/85, 3/148, 4/90, 5/33, 5/72, 8/12, 8/38, 8/38-39 (the warning), 8/39, 8/60, 9/3, 9/5, 9/14, 9/23, 9/29, 9/33, 9/73, 9/123, 25/36, 25/52, 33/61, 33/73, 35/36, 47/4, 66/9. This includes many bloody threats, but also verses advising or permitting political, social, economical, etc. compulsion (with the sword in the background if you protest) – we mention a few here: 3/28, 3/85, 3/148, 4/81, 5/72, 5/73, 9/23, 14/7, 15/3, 33/73, 35/36. They are all quoted under 2/256. (At least 28 abrogations).

094 19/84c: “- - - We (Allah*) but count out to them (non-Muslims*) a (limited) number (of days)”. What Allah has predestined is what counts and cannot be changed. (Though how to combine it with free will of man? - or forgiving, or any effect of prayer, or of a pilgrimage? - etc.?).

095 19/85a: "The day (of Doom*) We (Allah*) shall gather the righteous to (Allah) - - -". If he exists, if he is a major god, and if everything is correctly told in the Quran.

096 19/86a: "- - - And We (Allah*) shall drive the sinners to Hell - - -". Is Allah also the real master of Hell? - a good and benevolent god in case. See 3/77b above.

097 19/87a: "None shall have the power of intercession (on the Day of Doom*), but such a one who has received permission (or promise) from (Allah) Most Gracious. Remarks:

This contradicts the places in the Quran flatly stating that no-one can intercede at that day.

Muhammad had got such permission already - one of his points of power; "better be friends with him, so he can intercede for us".

And there remain the question about Yahweh. He exists also according to the Quran (though Muhammad wrongly claims Yahweh is the same god as Allah) - and if the Quran and/or the Bible tells the truth, he has proved his power, something Allah absolutely not have done - there only are big words from a man wanting power and believing in al-Taqiyya (the lawful lie), Kitman (the lawful half-truth), broken promises, even sworn ones, and cheating ("War is deceit").

098 19/89b: "Indeed ye (Christians*) have put forth a thing most monstrous (that Jesus is the son of Yahweh*)!" If Jesus is the son of Yahweh/God, Muhammad impossibly can be the greatest of prophets. On the other hand one cannot totally omit that may be Muhammad really wanted the god to be the only big one, and believed Christians had Jesus as god number 2 (and Maria(!!) as number 3 in the trinity).

099 19/90-91: “As if the skies are ready to burst, the earth to split asunder, and the mountains to fall down in utter ruin. That they (Christians*) should invoke a son for (Allah) (Yahweh/God*) - - -.” Thus would the unbelief be in the nature, regarding the claim that Jesus is the son of God. Anthropomorphism - normally parts of primitive religions or legends and fairy tales.

Well, also Islam reckons Jesus to be very reliable, and according to the proved not falsified book, the Bible, he himself many times said so in front of all together very many witnesses.

100 19/92a: “For it is not consonant with the majesty of (Allah) Most Gracious that He should beget a son”. See among others 19/35a above.

101 19/94: "He (Allah*) does take an account of them (all), and hath numbered them (all) (all beings*) exactly." Allah decides everything and has everything predestined. Like so much in the Quran a not proved claim.

102 19/95a: "And every one of them (living beings*) will come to Him (Allah*) singly on the Day of Judgment". As said many times before: If Allah exists, if he is a major god, and if the Quran is trustworthy. Not to mention: According to the Bible it is Yahweh, not Allah, who will rule that day.

103 19/96d: "- - - Love". This is a word not much used in the Quran, and mostly only in connection with your closest family. In the NT it is the central word (" - - - but greatest is Love"). 2 very different gods. 2 very different religions. And Jesus and Muhammad very different to use miniwords.

104 19/97a: "So We (Allah*) made the (Quran) - - -". No omniscient god ever made a book of that quality - with that many wrong facts, contradictions, cases of invalid logic, etc. If Allah really exists and made the Quran, that documents that he is far from omniscient - very far (at the level of primary and secondary school - most of the mistaken facts a neutral student in higher schools, and some even in primary, would know or suspect were wrong).

#####105 19/97b: "So We (Allah*) made the (Quran) easy - - -". Please do remember this each time a Muslim tries to tell you that a mistake in the Quran does not mean what is written, but something entirely different or a parable, which he has to explain for you, because the god was so clumsy expressing himself in his claimed easy to understand book, that mere humans must help him and explain what he really means when he is talking.

106 19/97c: "So We (Allah*) made the (Quran) easy in thine (Muhammad's*) own tongue - - -". If Allah aimed for world dominance, Arab was not the correct language to choose. Latin, Greek, or Persian had been much better. They also had complete alphabets, which had made it possible to write down exact meanings - as it is now, Islam all too often have to guess what is really meant, and end up with 2 or more possible meanings (= "different ways of reading" = different versions (which Muslims vigorously claim does not exists of the Quran)).


107 19/98a: “But how many (countless) generations before them (Muhammad’s followers*) have We (Allah*) destroyed?” See 17/17 above. The situation for Yahweh: Even further behind in the competition of who is the greatest killer, than we thought.

3744 + 107 = 3851 remarks.


Not formed like questions for proofs, but what needs to be proved normally easy to see all the same. And: References you do not find here, go to "1000+ Comments on the Quran".

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