1000+ Claims in the Quran - Invalid Unless Proven, Surah 16


SURAH 16: An-Nahl (Bees)

(Mecca, 622 AD; Among last ones in Mecca)


001  "In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful". Please read the surahs from Medina, the immoral parts of the Muslim moral code, the unjust/immoral parts of sharia, and the Quran's rules for lying, thieving/looting, enslaving, raids and wars, plus the rules for treatment of girls and women - free and captives - and see if you agree. Always when there is a distance between words and corresponding demands and deeds, we personally believe in the demands and deeds. Glorious words are cheap, demands and deeds are reliable. Glorifying words and claims are too cheap for anyone to use and disuse - when you read, judge from realities, not from propaganda.

002 16/1b: "(Inevitable) commeth (to pass) the Command of Allah - - -". It is inevitable only if:

If Allah exists - but with all which is wrong in the Quran also this may be wrong (Muhammad after all just took over a pagan god, al-Lah, and claimed he was not pagan.

If Allah in case he exists and is a major god, is correctly described in the Quran - again; with all which is wrong in the Quran, there might be mistakes also here, especially as all the mistakes makes it clear that the book and hence the description is not made by a god, and perhaps even more so as Allah was a peaceful god as long as Muhammad was in Mecca, but became a war god when Muhammad started to gain power and needed warriors in Medina. The change in the god and in the religion in 622 - 624 AD is very striking, but never mentioned by Muslims or Islam. As the surahs from Mecca - some 85-90 - and the ones from Medina - some 22-28 (there are some one does not know the age of, though one believe one knows from which period) are mixed helter-skelter in the Quran, it is a bit difficult for readers who do not know the book well, to see this. But if you first read the surahs from Mecca, and then the ones from Medina separately, it is very easy to see this change from a peaceful to a war religion. And the point here is: An eternal god cannot change that much in just 1-2 years from Muhammad's arrival in Medina. At least one of the descriptions has to be wrong. Which of the descriptions - if any - is correct? Mecca and peaceful? - or Medina and blood and dishonesty and stealing and terror?

And if the Quran's claims about total predestination are correct (but in that case man has no free will, no matter what the Quran says about this - there are some of the immaterial laws which are impossible to break even for omnipotent gods.)

003 16/1d: "- - - seek ye (non-Muslims*) not to hasten it (the command of Allah*) - - -". Some opponents asked Muhammad for proofs for his new religion, and one way they used, was to dare him to ask his god to punish them or something similar - something Muhammad did not like, because he was unable to prove anything at all. This simply is fast-talk to gloss over this inability and lack of proofs.

004 16/1e: "- - - glory to Him (Allah*) - - -". Read 1/1a above and see if you agree - - - if he exists.

005 16/1f: "- - - far is He (Allah*) above having the partners (likely the other gods of the pagan Arabs, but non-Arab gods and Jesus may be included*) they (the pagan Arabs and perhaps the Christians*) ascribe unto Him (Allah*)!" It is clear that the Quran is not made by a god - too much is wrong. The alternatives thus are dark forces, a mental illness, or mere humans - and how are f.x. humans to know how a god thinks? An omniscient and omnipotent god surely could manage alone, but there might be practical or intellectual or personal reasons for a wish for one or more "partners". There f.x. exists a little known poem telling that it is boring even to be a god if one is alone.

006 16/1g: "- - - far is He (Allah*) above having the partners (likely the other gods of the pagan Arabs, but non-Arab gods and Jesus may be included*) they (the pagan Arabs and perhaps the Christians*) ascribe unto Him (Allah*)!" Is Allah far above anything at all if the Quran is a made up book - and Allah perhaps a made up god?

According to the Bible he at least is not above Yahweh.

007 16/1h: "- - - far is He (Allah*) above having the partners (likely the other gods of the pagan Arabs, but non-Arab gods and Jesus may be included*) they (the pagan Arabs and perhaps the Christians*) ascribe unto Him (Allah*)!" By using this formula - and he uses it often - Muhammad indicates that Allah is the god everyone everywhere knows about or at least was known from the old, but that many have added other gods in addition to him. This picture is false - except for in Arabia where many had al-Lah (also named Allah sometimes) as one of their gods - the same pagan god Muhammad dressed up and called only Allah - the rest of the world had other gods not in addition to, but instead of Allah, and most did not even know about al-Lah/Allah. They had their oven gods and they were self-sufficient and not added to Allah. But psychologically a good sentence for Muhammad and his preaching. Also see 25/18a below.

008 16/2a: “He (Allah*) sent down His angels with inspiration (“ruh”*) - - -.” Remember this when you come to verses where Muhammad tells Allah cannot send down angels to prove his existence or Muhammad's connection to a god, because that will mean the Day of Doom has arrived.

009 16/2b: “He (Allah*) sent down His angels with inspiration (“ruh”*) - - -.” It may here be worth reminding you that Yahweh did not use inspiration when giving messages to his prophets - he either used direct contact, visions, or dreams (4. Mos. 12/6-8). Yahweh and Allah the same god? No.

010 16/2c: "- - - inspiration - - -". Muhammad claimed he received most of the verses in the Quran by inspiration. A very convenient way - impossible for anyone to check and easy to add or subtract - - - or invent.

011 16/2f: "- - - do your (Muslims'*) duty onto Me (Allah*)". Duties which by coincidence (?) mostly happened to be in accordance with Muhammad's wishes and ideas. And the foremost duty for a Muslim was - and according to the Quran still is - to go to war. This even though nearly all Muhammad's and his successor's armed "incidents" were raids, etc. of aggression to steal/rob, take prisoners and little by little to force Islam on others by the sword or by other means backed by the sword.

012 16/3c: "- - - far is He (Allah*) above having the partners (likely the other gods of the pagan Arabs and others, and Jesus may be included*) they (the pagan Arabs and perhaps the Christians*) ascribe unto Him (Allah*)!" See 6/106b and 16/1e+f above and 25/18a below.

013 16/4a: “He (Allah*) has created man (the word “man” used like this, means the human race = in this case Adam*) from a sperm-drop - - -”. Wrong. Even if it should really mean not Adam, but men generally speaking, it is wrong. A sperm-drop is just half the explanation - also an egg cell is necessary. But Muhammad did not know that. (Human - and animal - egg cells are too small to be seen with only eyes when it is lying in human tissue, blood and gore). But any god had known. Also see 6/2.

014 16/4c: “He (Allah*) has created man (Adam*) from a sperm-drop - - -.” If he created man - Adam - from a sperm drop; from where did that sperm drop - and the egg - comes?.

#015 16/5: “And cattle He (Allah*) has created for you (men) - - -”. Hardly. Cattle were not created for man - they were wild animals “created” for wild life, which man tamed - some 15ooo years ago the first ones. Actually they were not even created, but developed from earlier animals. What happens to credibility when a god takes credit for good things and man later discovers the claim for credit is not true? - especially when the god and his representatives are able to produce only fast talk as proofs? Also see 11/7a above.

016 16/7a: "- - - your (Muslims'*) Lord is indeed Most Kind, Most Merciful". Please read the harsh war surahs from Medina, and afterwards think over if you agree (if you do, consult a "shrink"). There is no doubt, though that most Muslims honestly think also those surahs represent good moral - a consequence of being raised in a culture where you are imprinted such ideals and in a culture where you are raised to accept the religion, not to evaluate it: - right or wrong? - moral or immoral?

017 16/8b: * "- - - He (Allah*) has created (other) things of which ye (humans*) have no knowledge". If you read the Quran, you will see Muhammad claims Allah has created absolutely everything - nothing is f.x. a result of natural processes. But in the entire book - and anywhere else - you will find not one proof for all those claims. And you will find no claims for Allah's creation of things unknown to Muhammad. And not one thing which would exist once in the future. Why?

018 16/9a: "And unto Allah leads straight the Way - - -". How reliable is such an undocumented claim in a book full of mistakes and thus clearly not from a god?

019 16/9c: "- - - He (Allah*) could have guided all of you (man*)." Not with a guide-book like the Quran - not to the Heaven of a benevolent, goodhearted god.

020 16/9d: "- - - He (Allah*) could have guided all of you (man*)." If this had been true, what would it tell about the good and benevolent god that he let and lets millions of humans and jinns end in Hell each year, just because he will not guide them? - Not to mention if all that is a result of his predestination!?

#021 16/10-11b: “- - - out of it (rain*) (grows) the vegetation on which ye feed your cattle. - - - verily in this is a Sign for those who give thought.” Giving it thought, we understand that this is just what nature is like - and that Allah has not proved it is his work, even though Muhammad said so - but only said so. And some more flattery of the reader (13/3j). Also see 11/7a above.

022 16/11b: “- - - verily this (different food plants*) is a Sign for those who are given thought.” Verily it will be - - - but not until the day when Islam proves it really was Allah who created these food plants. Until that day it only is a clear sign that Islam and the Quran only have claims and cheap words and no proofs to show. Because if they had real arguments, they did not have to resort to logically invalid claims only. (This is an unavoidable conclusion from some persons giving things thoughts).

023 16/12a: "- - - the Night and the Day; the Sun and the Moon; and the Stars are in subjection by His (Allah's*) Command - - -". Similar is claimed many times in the Quran, but never proved. One of those easy, seemingly impressive claims any believer can make on behalf of any god and religion as long as no proof is necessary. It is valid nothing neither as a sign nor as a proof, until it is proved that it really is Allah who is behind it. Also see 11/7a above.

024 16/13b: “And the things on earth which He (Allah*) has multiplied - - - verily this is a Sign - - -”. Nothing is a real sign or proof as long as it just is claiming credit for what happens in the nature quite naturally - and even more so when the only proofs for the claims are lofty words built on nothing. These kinds of "proofs" are invalid unless it is first proved that Allah really has done what is claimed.

025 16/14: “It is He Who has made the sea subject - - -”. Also the sea Muhammad claims - without anything to show for himself but empty words any priest in any religion can use for a "proof" for his pantheon.

#026 16/15a: “And He (Allah*) has set upon the earth mountains - - -". Allah or nature?

#027 16/15ab: “And He (Allah*) has set upon the earth mountains - - -". Mountains are not set on Earth - they grow up from Earth - and really the mistake is bigger than this, as the Arab word used, really means that the mountains are dropped down on Earth (the same word an Arab sailor used when he dropped down an anchor).

#028 16/15b: “And He (Allah*) has set upon the earth mountains standing firm, lest it should shake with you; - - -”. What the Quran here really means, is that the lat Earth can start wobbling and even perhaps tip over and drop you off, if the mountains do not keep the flat Earth stable. Modern Muslims normally claim the book talks about earthquakes - but mountains do not stabilize earthquakes, too - on the contrary sometimes - so also this "explanation" is wrong. You may also meet the claim that the Quran means the 10 - 60 km thick crust of the Earth can start wobbling on the liquid magma underneath, if mountains do not stabilize it (do not laugh - it is impolite).

029 16/16: "(Allah has made*) marks and signposts - - -". Signposts always are made by man. Marks may be made by man, by animals or by nature - Islam will have to prove Allah really is involved, though. Just loose claims are too easy and cheap. Somewhat similar to 11/7a above.

030 16/17b: "Is then He Who creates like one that creates not?" No, and that is why it is thought-provoking that Muhammad and Allah never was able to prove even the creation of a comma, whereas if the old books tells the truth on that point, Yahweh and Jesus proved not a little.

031 16/17c: "Is then He (claimed Allah*) Who creates like one that creates not?" No - not if he really creates, whereas the others really do not. But as the whole of this claim only rests on a book full of mistaken facts, etc., dictated by a man of very doubtful moral and reliability, no rational and intelligent person can believe in it without documentation - and all we have seen are strong claims built on nothing, and as strong demands for and idolizing of blind belief, the most sure way of being cheated in all other aspects of life.

032 16/17d: "Will ye (people*) not receive admonition?". Sure. But Allah is unable to give if he does not exist. And if he exists, but is from the dark forces, maybe we had better leave it.

033 16/18a: "If ye (Muslim? people?) would count up the favors of Allah, never would you be able to number them - - -". One more of the many never proved claims in the Quran. Read, and you will find plenty of more. They have at least two things in common: 1) They are never proved - and loose words are cheap. 2) In absolutely all such cases any person in any religion can claim the same on behalf of his/her god(s) - loose words are that cheap.

(In both cases there may be exceptions among the ones taken from the Bible, but they in case are about Yahweh, not about Allah.) 

034 16/19: "And Allah doth know what ye conceal, and what ye reveal". One of the often repeated reminders in the Quran: Allah sees everything and punishes the non-Muslims, but rewards good Muslims - both of which are nice and comforting to know for "us". But he also punishes bad Muslims and is good only to the good ones, so stay in line and be good and obedient. Even if Islam should happen to be a false religion, this is a good reminder for Muhammad and his successors - it keeps his/their followers and subjects willing and obedient as long as they believe at least a little. Also see 2/233h and 3/77b above and 35/38b below.

Another point: If Allah knows everything about you, why then has he to test you? - if he knows everything, he can learn nothing from the test, and this even more so if he predestines everything.

035 16/20b: "Those (other gods*) whom they (non-Muslims*) invoke besides Allah create nothing and are themselves created". This may be correct - perhaps with exceptions for f.x. Yahweh (not the same god as Allah - too deep and fundamental differences in the teachings - - - and science and Islam both have proved there are no falsifications in the Bible, in spite of the Quran's claims, by finding that there are no falsifications in the known tens of thousands of relevant old papers). But a relevant, serious and never solved question: Is also Allah created? The quality of the Quran indicates, and all the mistakes there prove that something is very wrong. Also f.x. the fact that Muhammad some places speaks in the Quran proves this. Also see 21/30a and 25/18a below.

036 16/20c: "Those (other gods*) whom they (non-Muslims*) invoke besides Allah create nothing and are themselves created". The recurring question: Did Allah create or is he created? The facts that not one ounce - not one picogram - of the central claims is proved, and also the quality of the Quran, are ominous signs.

037 16/21a: "They (the images of false gods*) are things) dead, lifeless - - -". If Allah is a made up god, he will not even be a dead and lifeless idol - he will only a phantom picture made in a scheming and perhaps sick (TLE - Temporal Lobe Epilepsy) brain. Or perhaps made up by the dark forces.

038 16/21b: "They (the images of false gods*) are things) dead, lifeless - - -". But there is the recurring question about Yahweh - he is alive even according to the Quran, even though the book wrongly mixes him with Allah.

039 16/21c: "They (the images of false gods*) are things) dead, lifeless: Nor do they know when they will be raised up". According to Islam such idols will be given life on the Day of Doom and witness against their congregations (not so in the Bible). But:

If they were dead things, they neither heard or could remember anything, and cannot witness.

If Allah is omniscient, why does he need witnesses?

You will meet Muslims saying the witnesses are in order to show the resurrected humans that Allah really is just. But that only has a meaning if anyone disbelieves that Allah is just.

Is there any reason for disbelieving that Allah is just? - he after all believes in the use of dishonesty as working tools, according to the Quran.

040 16/22c: "- - - their (non-Muslims'*) hearts refuse to know - - -". Good psychology used also today ("'they' believe but 'we' know" to quote a claim you hear even today by some sects) - when the others do not believe what we believe, it is because there is something wrong with them, not because they see realities we refuse to see.

041 16/23c: "Undoubtedly Allah doth know what they (humans*) conceal, and what they reveal - - -". See 2/233h above.

042 16/23d: ""- - - verily He (Allah*) loveth not the arrogant". He does not even love Muslims if he does not exist.

043 16/23e: ""- - - verily He (Allah*) loveth not the arrogant". Muslims sometimes are pretty arrogant, perhaps especially from among the Arab ones. Does this mean Islam is not loved by Allah?

044 16/24a: "'What is it your Lord (Allah*) has revealed?' - - -". And the great question is just: Was it at all revealed? See 4/47c, 5/59e, 15/1d above.

045 16/24b: "'What is it your Lord (Allah*) has revealed?' they (non-Muslims*) say, 'Tales of the ancients!'" And they were 100% right: Most of the tales in the Quran are old folklore, legends - many Biblical, but often incorrect - and simply fairy tales, plus apocryphal (made up) scriptures, often twisted a little to fit into the Quran. Not strange they called it old tales. We actually know the sources of most of the stories in the Quran. Is the Quran really the work of a god?

046 16/26a: “- - - Allah took their (folks of the older times*) structures from their foundations, and the roof fell down on them from above (and killed them*).” The score is growing - Allah is a much bigger killer than Yahweh in OT.

047 16/27b: "- - - He (Allah*) will cover them (non-Muslims*) with shame". The old fact: This only is possible if he exists, and if he in addition is something supernatural - black or white.

048 16/28b: "- - - wrongdoing to their (sinners') own souls". But how is it possible that humans can be sinners, if it is Allah and his total predestination which forces them to do it? The Quran many places states absolutely that Allah decides and predestines everything and according to a Plan nobody and nothing can change!

049 16/29a: "- - - the gates of Hell - - -". There are 7 of them according to Hadiths, one opening to a worse place than the other. At least according to Islam.

050 16/29d: "- - - the arrogant". Non-Muslims - they were arrogant to disbelieve Muhammad. Another fact is that the Arabs for centuries - perhaps even now - were arrogant towards non-Arab Muslims (not to mention towards non-Muslims).

051 16/30c: "What is it your (Muhammad's*) Lord (Allah*) has revealed?" What is sure no god did reveal, is the Quran - too much wrong for any god to be involved.

052 16/30e: "(The Quran contains*) All that is good". Please read the Quran, and especially the some 22 - 24 surahs from Medina, and weep - or laugh.

053 16/30-32: “To those (Muslims*) who do good, there is good in this world (sometimes*), and the Home of the Hereafter (Paradise*) is even better; and excellent indeed is the Home of the righteous – Gardens of Eternity which they will enter: beneath them flow (pleasant) rivers - - -”. The promise is: A nice, Earth-like Paradise (see 10/9f above) for eternity. But as there is no god behind the Quran and all its mistakes, it is an open question how much the promise is worth. What is sure, though, is that the many and fundamental differences between Yahweh's and Allah's paradises alone prove 100+% that the two are not the same god - if they had been, their Paradise had been one and the same.

054 16/31e: "- - - they (Muslims*) will have therein (Paradise) all that they wish - - -". Read what Muhammad's and the Quran's and Islam's Paradise has to offer - f.x. 10/9f above. Is this really all you can wish? In that case you really is a primitive sample of humanity.

055 16/31f: "- - - thus doth Allah reward the righteous". If Allah exists and is a god (and not f.x. from the dark forces), and if his Paradise (see 10/9f) exists.

056 16/32c: "- - - in a state of purity - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses expressions like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code (please compare that code to "do unto others like you want others do unto you", and see what you think).

###057 16/32d: "- - - enter ye (Muslims*) the Garden, because of (the good) which ye did (in the world)". Ones more serious difference between Yahweh and Allah: In the Bible you do not enter Paradise so much because of your good deeds - though they count - as because of the goodness of Yahweh, who forgives your bad deeds. In the Quran your good and bad deeds are weighted on a scale against each other (even though you can pray for forgiveness - but for unclear purposes, as for one thing Allah has predestined your destination, and for another nothing can change his predestined Plan, both facts according to many statements in the Quran), whereas in the Bible honest remorse and prayers for forgiveness removes the "debt of sins" and open the gate of Paradise.

058 16/35a: "The worshippers of false gods - - -". An interesting point here is that Muhammad reckoned Christians to believe Jesus was/is such a false god - Muhammad never understood the Gospels and the rest of NT on points like this. The Bible do not say Jesus is a god, only that he is divine - a prince is not a king, even if he belongs to the royal family (and in this case he also never will become a king, as the king - Yahweh - is eternal). Muhammad also never understood the Trinity dogma, and believed it consisted of Yahweh, Jesus and Mary instead of Yahweh, Jesus and the Holy Spirit (though he may be right that the Trinity dogma is not correct - the three may perhaps not be one - that dogma is manmade and may be wrong, as this is not said in the Bible. It is a Christian dogma from the 4. century, and it got its present form from the so-called Cappadocian Fathers (Gregory of Nyassa (332-395), Basil the Great (320-79), Gregory of Nazeanzus (329-389)). The nearest you come in the Bible is that Jesus said that he and his father, Yahweh, were one.)). And to finish the Trinity: The Holy Spirit is a kind of messenger or ambassador for Yahweh - one hardly with any will of its own. And just to mention it: Many Muslims claim the Holy Spirit just is another name for the archangel Gabriel. No-one who really knows the Bible would ever get that idea - the claim was not even worth a comment if it was not because many Muslims do not know any better and believe in it. It also is not said in the Quran.

##############059 16/35e: YA here has an interesting comment (YA2057: "- - - the limited free will granted to man, which is the whole basis of Ethics". The Quran claims man has free will. As this obviously is wrong, as Allah predestines everything, some Muslims try to save the day by adjusting it to that the book and Allah in reality mean limited free will, something the Quran definitely nowhere says. The flat reality, though, is that if Allah decides and predestines everything, like the Quran states MANY places, there is nothing left for man to decide. Thus also "limited free will" is impossibility. Worse: The fact that if Allah decides everything, there is nothing left for man to decide, is such a simple mathematics, that it is not possible YA and all other learned Muslims do not know it. x - x = 0. There exists no other possible answer. All the same they use this argument - and many simpleminded or uneducated or wishful believers believe it. You meet a little too much of this kind of dishonesty in Islamic literature.

#############But the really interesting point just here, is that YA clearly states the obvious: If man has no free will, all ethical questions concerning him disappears. What you are forced to do, tells nothing about your ethics. But on the other hand it tells a lot about the ethics of the one who forces you to do it. Not to mention what it tells about the ethics of the one forcing you, if he punishes you for bad things he has forced you to do. Allah predestines everything according to his Plan, according to the Quran. All the same Allah punishes you for the bad deeds he forced you to do to follow his Plan. What kind of god is this?!!

Thus Islam has at least four problems concerning predestination where the contradictions are so strong, that they are unsolvable even for an omniscient and omnipotent god:

1. If Allah predestines everything like the Quran states most clearly many places, there is no room for free will of man, not even for "partly free will". x - x = 0 simply, and no other answer is possible. (Also full clairvoyance from Allah would be impossible - with free will man always could change his mind once more.) It also is symptomatic that we no place in Muslim literature have met an explanation for how "partly free will" should be possible or what difference it would mean. Like so much in Islam, it just is a claim hanging on nothing.

2. If Allah predestines everything, and you thus just do what he has decided you shall do, how is it then ethically and morally possible to punish you for bad deeds? - and for that case reward you for good deeds? What kind of god is this?!

3. ##########################And the third problem - one Muslims and Islam NEVER mention: If Allah predestines everything, and does so according to his unchangeable Plan like the Quran states many places - and decides it even years and decades before it is to happen (your death and whether you are to end in Hell or Heaven f.x. are decided 5 months before you are born according to Hadiths) - there is no value in prayers, as prayers like everything else can have no effect on his decisions made according to his Plan which nobody and nothing can change.

4. ##########################And a fourth problem: Also forgiving means to change Allah's Plan - which "nobody and nothing can do". "Ergo" to ask for forgiving is meaningless, as it is asking Allah change his predestined Plan for you. If Allah's full predestination is true, the Quran's talk about forgiving and effect of prayers are untrue.

5. And we may mention a fifth problem: If nobody and nothing can change Allah's predestined Plan, also the pilgrimage to Mecca is without any effect, and thus invalid and meaningless. 

#########################THUS ONLY BECAUS OF THIS FUNDAMENTAL POINT IN THE QURSN - FULL PREDESTIANTION (IF IT IS TRUE) - TWO OF THE CLAIMED PILLARD CARRYING ISLAM - PRAYERS AND PILGRIMGE - ARE WITHOUT EFFECT AND VALUE, AND THUS MEANINGLESS. As said: If what the Quran tells about predestination is true - but according to Islam and to the Quran itself, the Quran is the Truth.

These are the reasons why you meet Muslims claiming that Allah's predestinations are not real predestinations, without explaining what it then is - and in stark contradiction to many clear statements in the Quran. And why you meet Muslims claiming the impossible - and like so often in Islam without logical explanation for how it is possible - that man has free will or at least partly free will, in spite of the 100% predestination stated frequently in the Quran, "because the claim has to be true because Allah says so in the Quran".

As for the value of prayers in Islam, also see 62/9c. And if you combine 62/9c with 67/9c - a strong one - you get something thought-provoking. (And relevant here: Muslims often are taught that a question or problem can have 2 or more true and correct solutions, even contradicting ones - Islam is forced to teach this, because if not, many of the mistakes and contradictions in the Quran become too obvious. But this ONLY is true if parallel true solutions are possible. In cases where 2 or more possible solutions are mutually excluding each other, maximum 1 of the mutually excluding ones can be true. It should be a bit thought provoking for Muslims, that just this "small" difference in theoretical thinking and teaching, was one of the reasons (there were several of course) for why Europe and the West exploded into the Technical Revolution, while the Muslim area stagnated). Two star examples are: 1) Full predestination is not possible even for an omnipotent god to combine with even the smallest piece of free will for man - the two are mutually excluding. The same for full and unchangeable predestination long time before, combined with any claimed effect of prayers - the two are mutually excluding each other.)

060 16/35d: “But what is the mission of the Messengers but to preach the Clear Message?” Surah 16 is one of the very last surahs from Mecca – months later the contents started to change, and contradictions – and abrogations – were necessary for the changes of Islam to a war religion. This verse is abrogated – made invalid - by at least these verses: 2/191, 2/193, 3/38, 3/85, 3/148, 4/90, 5/33, 5/72, 8/12, 8/38, 8/38-39 (the warning), 8/39, 8/60, 9/3, 9/5, 9/14, 9/23, 9/29, 9/33, 9/73, 9/123, 25/36, 25/52, 33/61, 33/73, 35/36, 47/4, 66/9. This includes many bloody threats, but also verses advising or permitting political, social, economical, etc. compulsion (with the sword in the background if you protest) – we mention a few here: 3/28, 3/85, 3/148, 4/81, 5/72, 5/73, 9/23, 14/7, 15/3, 33/73, 35/36. They are all quoted under 2/256. (At least 28 abrogations).


061 16/35f: "- - - a Clear Message". The message in the Quran may be clear in some ways - the message "believe blindly in one god and obey Muhammad" - though not in others (like predestination contra free will, or its many mistakes and contradictions, etc.). But so what? - also Muhammad's message to the peace delegation from Khaybar was a clear message: "I guarantee you a safe return" - - - but it was not true he murdered them. The main thing here - and especially so as it is the foundation under a religion - is that the message is not a true one, as it is not from any god and full of mistaken facts, contradictions, etc. No god made such and so many errors like in the Quran.


062 16/36a: “For We (Allah*) assuredly sent amongst every people a Messenger.” Contradictions:

28/46: “Yet (art thou (Muhammad*) sent) as a Mercy from thy Lord (according to the Quran = Allah*) to give warning to a people to whom no warner (= prophet, messenger*) had come before - - -.” No messenger had they had, even though “every people” had had.

32/3: “Nay, it is the Truth from thy (Muhammad’s*) Lord (Allah*), that thou mayest admonish to a people to whom no warner has come before thee - - -.”

34/44: “But We (Allah*) had not given them (Arabs”*) Books which they could study, nor sent messengers to them before thee (Muhammad*) - - -.”

36/6: “In order that thou (Muhammad*) mayest admonish a people (the Arabs*) whose fathers had received no admonition - - -.”

Muhammad's claim here also is contradicted by reality: Neither science nor Islam has been able to find one single trace of a prophet or messenger preaching Islam before 610 AD (Muhammad and Islam claim the old Jewish prophets, included Jesus, did so, but this they will have to prove - not claim, but prove - to be believed., as they preached a very different religion.) ###There also are extremely strong circumstantial proofs for that the claim in this quote is wrong - no trace from such messengers are ever found anywhere, and at least from the period of the Roman Empire we have good information about also religions.

Which verse(s) is/are wrong? (Also remember that the Quran many places mention at least 3 prophets (Hud, Shu'ayb and Salih + perhaps - perhaps - Moses) who worked in Arabia long before Muhammad. Well, Moses may have been in Sudan or more likely in Sinai and not in Arabia - one does not know where his Midian lay (though as Mt. Hebron and Mt. Sinai are mentioned, it extremely likely lay in Sinai).)

(4 contradictions or more).

##063 16/36c: “For We (Allah*) assuredly sent amongst every people a Messenger, (with the command),’Serve Allah, and eschew Evil’: - - -”. The Quran insists that every people everywhere and every time through history has been sent prophets for Allah. The Hadiths mention that through the times there have been 124ooo prophets or more, and even that number may be just an expression for innumerably many. But nowhere in the world - except among the Jews (and in a way in Egypt under pharaoh Akn-Aton, who only accepted the sun as god - not Allah, and the Zoroastrians in Persia) - at any time or under any circumstances there are traces of prophets preaching monotheism before year one AD (Jesus), and nowhere anyone preaching Islam until 610 AD. Not in history, not in folklore, not in traditions, not in history, not in art, not in literature, not in archaeology, not any place - not even in fairy tales or legends. Especially when you compare this to the results of just two prophets: Jesus and Muhammad, it is not possible that 124ooo or more prophets through the times have left not a single trace. ####Nothing found by science, and nothing found even by Islam. ####This statement about all the prophets for Allah simply is not true.

064 16/36e: "- - - of the people were some whom Allah guided - - -". One of the big differences between Allah and Yahweh - Allah "guideth whom he choseth", (even worse if he predestined many for hell, like the Quran clearly tells some places), whereas Yahweh tries to reach everybody ("the lost lamb", "the 11. hour") even though because of full free will many do not listen. Not the same god, never the same religion". (Besides: You cannot do much religious guiding by means of a book full of mistakes and not from any god - no god would deliver that quality information).

065 16/36j: “So travel through the earth, and see what was the end of those who denied (the Truth)”. There were scattered ruins in and around Arabia. The Quran/Muhammad tells they all are results of Allah’s punishment of infidels. Hardly true - at least not for all of them (if any).

That the Quran is the truth, is just a claim, not a proved fact.

066 16/36k: “- - - those who denied (the Truth (the Quran*))”. With all the mistakes in the Quran, it is impossible to believe that the book or Islam represents the full truth and only the truth. (That is one of the main reasons why Islam can accept not a single mistake in the Quran no matter how obvious the mistake is - if there are mistakes, something is wrong with the book - - - - and consequently with the religion). Similar claims in 6/5 – 21/24 – 22/53.

067 16/37d: "- - - Allah guideth not such as He leaves to stray - - -". In contrast to Yahweh, who guides everyone who honestly wishes so and asks for it.

068 16/37f: "- - - Allah guideth - - -". Allah can guide nobody unless he exists. And if he exists, but belongs to the dark forces, his guidance may be interesting.

069 16/38b: "They (non-Muslims*) swear (to Muhammad*) their strongest oaths by Allah - - -". You do not swear a valid oath by Allah if you do not believe in Allah.

070 16/38d: "- - - that Allah will not raise up those who die - - -". Quite likely correct. For one thing he cannot if he does not exist, and for another he has not proved the power of being able to create anything at all, included recreating the dead (which Yahweh has proved if the old books tell the truth).

071 16/38f: “- - - a promise (binding) on Him (Allah*) - - -". It is binding for Allah only if Allah exists, if he has sent down the Quran, and the Quran in addition tells the full truth and only the truth.

072 16/38h: “- - - a promise (binding) on Him (Allah*) - - -". There never was a proved case of Allah keeping a promise in all history or prehistory - lots of claims, but not one proved case.

073 16/38i: “- - - a promise (binding) on Him (Allah*) - - -". The promise of safe return for the 30 man strong peace talk delegation from Khaybar, was binding on Allah's claimed prophet and messenger (Muhammad), too. All the same he murdered them (except one who managed to flee).

074 16/39b: "(They (non-Muslims*) must be raised up (at the Day of Doom*)), in order that He (Allah*) - - -". But Allah has never proved he has neither the power of creation nor of recreation - only loose words.

075 16/39c: "- - - in order that He (Allah*) may manifest - - -". The old and unavoidable fact: Only possible if Allah exists and in addition is a god.

076 16/39g: “- - - the rejecters of the Truth - - -”. See 16/38m above.

077 16/39i: "- - - the rejecters (non-Muslims*) of the (claimed*) Truth (the Quran*) may realize that they had indeed (surrendered to) Falsehood". Some of them may have surrendered to a real religion (if such one exists). F.x. by believing in Yahweh. Or perhaps they simply have seen parts of all which is wrong in the Quran.

##078 16/40: "- - - to anything which We (Allah*) willed, We but could say the Word 'Be' and it is." Allah can predestine anything just by saying it - and by the way: He also just could say: "Be a son, and Jesus was" (no female necessary).

079 16/41d: "(Good Muslims*) We (Allah*) will assuredly give a goodly home in this world; but truly the reward in the Hereafter will be greater". This is a pep-talk to Muhammad's followers in a difficult time. This surah is from 622 AD, shortly before Muhammad had to flee Mecca - good words are cheap, but often helps the spirit. Some of it even became true, as a number of his followers later gained riches and power from stealing/robbing, extortion, and enslaving.

080 16/41e: "(Good Muslims*) We (Allah*) will assuredly give a goodly home in this world; but truly the reward in the Hereafter will be greater". Once more: Yes, if Allah exists, is a major god and is correctly described in the Quran. If he does not exist, not to mention if he exists, but belongs to the dark forces, the answer will be different.

081 16/41i: "If they (good Muslims*) only realized (this (that they will be rewarded))!" You cannot realize something unless it is true and proved - you can believe, but not realize.

082 16/42d: "- - - put their trust in Allah". A bit risky as long as there only exists one not reliable claim for his existence and nothing else.

083 16/43b: “And before thee (Muhammad*) also the Messengers We (Allah*) sent were but men - - -“. This is contradicted by verses in the Quran telling that angels were sent as messengers (beware: the Quran here says Messengers, not Prophets) to at least Abraham, Lot, and Mary, and that Jinns were sent as messengers to Jinns, (only men 12/109 - 21/7 - 25/20).

3/42: “Behold the angels (plural*) said (when they came to tell Mary she was going to have the baby Jesus*)”.

6/130: “O ye assembly of Jinns and men! Came there not unto you messengers (from Us, Allah*) from amongst you - - -.” A rhetoric question demanding the answer “yes” – yes, there came Jinn messengers from Allah to the Jinns, and human messenger from Allah to the humans.

11/69: “There came Our (Allah’s*) Messengers to Abraham - - -“. It is clear from the following verses that these messengers were angels.

11/77: When Our (Allah's*) messengers came to Lut (Lot*) - - -". The same angels who visited Abraham".

Also the messengers to Mary were angels according to both the Bible and the Quran.

At least 4 contradictions.

In addition there are the contradictions to the Bible if Islam claims Yahweh = Allah. Also there are angels and there is the Holy Spirit all bringing messages + at least 4 female prophets. Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

084 16/43c: "- - - but men (see 16/43b just above - - -". If Islam insists that Yahweh and Allah are the same god, Yahweh had at least 4 female prophetesses: Miriam, sister of Moses (2. Mos. 15/20), Deborah (Judg. 4/4), Huldah (2. Chr. 34/22 and 2. Kings 22/14), and Anna (Luke 2/36).One more indication for that Yahweh and Allah were not the same god. (A curiosum: Muhammad/the Quran mixed Miriam and Mary, mother of Jesus, living some 1200 years apart.)

#085 16/44a: (We (Allah*) sent them (the Biblical prophets*)) with Clear Signs and Books of dark prophesies - - -". But here is something wrong: The Quran/Islam claims the prophets of the old - like Muhammad - got a copy of the age-old and unchangeable "Mother Book". But the Quran contains no real prophesies (which the Bible did). If some books contained prophesies and the Quran not, they cannot all be copies of the same claimed eternal "Mother Book". (Now, the Quran also claims that "for each time a book" - that the book had to change because time changed - but we have never seen an explanation for how they then all could be copies of one eternal and unchangeable claimed "Mother Book".

086 16/44d: "- - - We (Allah*) have sent down to thee (Muhammad*) - - -". There is nowhere any real indication for contact between Muhammad and a god, only the words of a man with (according to the Quran and other Islamic sources) dubious moral, dubious point of view on speaking the truth, and much to gain on such a claim - read the reality in the texts instead of the glossy and glorious claims/words (skip the glorious words, and read what he wanted, demanded and did + some of the rules and laws he introduced, and you get the real Muhammad - big words may be cheap propaganda, deeds are telling the truth), and you see this yourself. On the contrary: All the mistaken facts, etc. in the Quran documents that no god has been involved.

087 16/44g: "- - - that thou (Muhammad*) mayst explain clearly to men what is sent for them - - -". There is little help in explaining clearly, if the explanation or the underlying story or both are not true.

088 16/44h: "- - - what is sent (the Quran) for them (people') - - -". Was it sent? - - - and in case from whom? (at least not from a god).

089 16/44i: "- - - that they (non-Muslims*) may give (the Quran*) thought". Many gave it thought and found that too much was not true and/or unreliable.

090 16/45a: "- - - those who devise evil (plots) - - -". Non-Muslims - opponents of Muhammad. These devised evil plots, Muhammad and his followers devised good plots - f.x. planning raids for stealing riches, extortion, rape, hunt for slaves, murder, and suppression).

Also one of Muhammad's many negative names for non-Muslims.

091 16/45d: This verse is pep-talk from Muhammad to his followers.

092 16/46: Pep-talk from Muhammad to his followers.

093 16/47a: "For thy (Muslims'*) Lord (Allah*) is indeed full of kindness and mercy". Please read the surahs from Medina (you find the numbers in "1000+ Mistakes in the Quran" - http://www.1000mistakes.com ) and some of his (?) sharia laws, and see if you agree. Also see 1/1a above.

#094 16/48c: “- - - Allah’s creations, (even) among (inanimate) things - how their (very) shadows turn round, from the right to the left, prostrating themselves to Allah and that in the humblest manner - - -”. Believe it or not: Even shadows pray to Allah - even though shadows just are lack of light = literally and utterly nothing. Besides nothing can neither give a religious prostration, nor humble itself without a brain and a mental process. Animism - something you normally find in primitive religions and in fairy tales.

095 16/49a: “And to Allah doth obeisance all that is in the heavens (plural and wrong*) and on earth, whether moving (living) creatures or the angels - - -“. Wrong – if Islam does not prove the opposite. Animals, birds, insects, fish, worms, etc. – they never are observed making obeisance to Allah (or to any other god). No rituals, no 5 prayers a day/night (even more so: Few animals are naturally active both night and day – “prayers” should thus be easy to notice when they are active praying at for them un-normal times to be active), no servility except sometimes towards their own leaders, etc. And surely non-Muslim humans do not do obeisance to Allah – though sometimes to other real or made up god or gods. This verse contradicts nearly any branch of science and knowledge – except legends and fairy tales.

096 16/50a: “They all (all living beings*) revere their Lord (Allah*) - - -”. Wrong – if Islam does not produce good proofs. See 16/49a+b above.

097 16/50b: "- - - and they (all living beings and angels*) do all that they are commanded". Allah decides literally absolutely everything for everyone and everything everywhere. Predestination. But is the sentence true?

098 16/51a: "Allah has said - - -". To be more exact: Muhammad said that Allah has said - - -.

099 16/51c: "- - - fear Me (Allah*) and Me alone". There is no reason to fear him unless he exists. If he exists and is behind the Quran, he is no god - too much is wrong in that book for a god to have ever been involved - but he may belong to the dark forces and simply cheated Muhammad. In this case he may be dangerous - at least in a perhaps next life.

100 16/52a: "To Him (Allah*) belongs whatever is in the heavens (plural and wrong*) and on earth - - -". Often claimed, never proved - nothing of any consequence is proved in Islam.


#####101 16/52e: "- - - then will ye (people*) fear other than Allah?". Simply yes - or perhaps fear nobody. For the simple reason we do not believe he exists. The only claims about his existence are from a man with a very doubtful moral and reliability, who on top of all perhaps was mentally ill (TFL - Temporal Lobe Epilepsy), and who liked power and riches for more power - and women - and who liked/needed a platform of power, something many a scheming man have found in religion. There are thousands who through the times have used an existing religion as a ladder to riches and power - and for that case to women - and hundreds who have started new sects or religions - Muhammad did something in between, which also is not uncommon. The only special thing about Muhammad, is that he was the most successful of these many men and a few women.

On top of this all the errors, etc. in the Quran proves 110% to any person with a not damaged brain - f.x. from brainwashing - and an IQ not below medium imbecility, that the Quran is not from any god, and thus that something is seriously wrong with Muhammad, with the Quran, and with Islam.


102 16/53b: "And ye (humans*) have no good things but is from Allah - - -". Nothing is from Allah unless he exists. Besides Yahweh represents some good things according to the Bible.

103 16/53c: "- - - when ye are touched by distress, unto Him (Allah*) ye cry with groans - - -". Why? If everything is predestined according to Allah's Plan which nothing and no-one can change, prayers mean nothing for what is going to happen - good or bad.

104 16/56c: "- - - that which We (Allah*) have bestowed for their (non-Muslim's*) sustenance!" Everything is from Allah according to the Quran - nothing from f.x. nature or your own toil.

105 16/56d: "- - - your (non-Muslims*) false inventions (other gods than Allah*)". But are all of the false inventions? There f.x. is the problem of the old Jewish and Christian god Yahweh, who according to the Bible far from is a made up god, and accepted by the Quran, even though that book wrongly mixes him up with Allah - in stark contrast to Allah, still according to the Bible. NB: Also the Quran tells that the old Jewish and Christian god exists, though they mix up his name with their own god Allah.

106 16/57d: "And they (pagan Arabs*) assign daughters for Allah! - - - and for themselves (sons - the issue) they desire". Sons were valuable, daughters of negative value in the old Arab culture. That the men wanted sons for themselves, but accepted daughters for a god was in such a culture a strong argument for that any claim about daughters for a god had to be wrong - a god impossibly could want daughters! A god for the entire world had known that f.x. the "world mother" or similar, was held in high esteem many places in the world. Also a few places daughters were reckoned to be really valuable - some places f.x. money to the parents when they married, and there even were a few matriarchates (6?) in the world, and Muhammad claimed the Quran was for the entire world.

107 16/57e: "Glory be to Him (Allah*)!" Please read 1/1a above and see if he deserved it - if he existed.

108 16/59b: "- - - or shall he (the father*) bury it (the newborn girl child*) in the dust?" It happened that newborn girls were so unwanted that they simply were buried alive to get rid of them. But science accepted by Islam has found that this in reality did not happen often - Muslims overstated the volume of the crime in order to sully their opponents. One of the not too many morally good things Muhammad did, was to put an end to this killing.

109 16/60c: "- - - to Allah applies the highest similitude - - -". Words are cheap. But by the way: Higher than to Yahweh?"

110 16/60d: "- - - He (Allah*) is the Exalted in Power - - -". Often claimed but never unmistakably shown.

111 16/60e: "- - - He (Allah*) is - - - full of Wisdom". Not if he made the Quran - too much is wrong.

112 16/61a: “If Allah were to punish men for their wrongdoings - - - - - but He gives them respite for a stated (but unknown*) Term - - -”. Which means nothing has to be proved by Muhammad. Good for Muhammad who never was able to prove anything at all.

113 16/61d: "- - - when their (people's*) Term expires - - -". = When their predestined time has come - Allah predestines everything.

#114 16/61f: "- - - when their (people's*) (predestined*) Term expires, they would not be able to delay (the punishment) for a single hour - - -". Not even by sincere prayers?

115 16/62a: “- - - they (contemporaries of Muhammad*) attribute to Allah what they hate (daughters*)”. In Arabia girl babies were disliked, and here it is said people generally hated to get girl babies. Wrong – if Islam pretends to be a universal religion. Some places on Earth – like in Arabia – girl babies may have been hated. But most places they only were of lower value, and far from hated. Then some places they were valued more or less equally. There also were places where daughters were valuable – f.x. because they meant money/valuables to their parents when they married. There even were a few places were the societies were matriarchate’s, and the girls the main sex. (This is one of the many points in the Quran where wrong knowledge points to some human(s) in Arabia as the maker(s) of the Quran – and there are too many points like this.)

116 16/63b: "- - - We (Allah*) (also) sent (Our Messengers) to Peoples before thee (Muhammad*) - - -". The Quran claims that all people everywhere and to all times have got prophets from Allah teaching Islam - the number 124ooo prophets through the times is often mentioned. Neither science nor Islam has ever found the slightest trace from them older than 610 AD (when Muhammad started his teachings), except among the Jews and Christians, and that was about Yahweh, not Allah.(And the Zoroastrians + Akn Aton's sun god, but also there nothing about Allah).

117 16/63c: "- - - but Satan made, (to the wicked), their own acts seem alluring - - -". If dark forces were the maker(s) of the Quran - at least no god was involved - can this be what happened to the Muslims? Many honestly believe that their immoral moral code and all their sharia laws are good moral and ethics.

This is one of the many points in the Quran telling Islam's moral code that non-Muslims are second rate or worse.

118 16/63d: "- - - but Satan made, (to the wicked), their own acts seem alluring - - -". But how could this happen, when the Quran so clearly states that Allah decides everything? Remember that free will for man is one of the things not possible even for an omnipotent god if there is full predestination = not even limited free will. (This is one more claim which is wrong in the Quran). See 14/22b above.

###119 16/63e: "- - - but Satan made, (to the wicked), their own acts seem alluring - - -". Compare the Quran's ethical and moral codes to "do unto others like you want others do unto you" and remember what is alluring to Muslims according to the Quran. Do you start thinking? (This question we found on Internet.)

###120 16/63f: "- - - he (Satan*) is also their (non-Muslims'*) patron today - - -". No comments. But if Muslims accuse us or you for negative words about Muslims or Muhammad, there are some points against non-Muslims which are difficult to surpass, in the Quran. Practical to know if you are accused of indecency towards Muhammad or something sometime.

121 16/64a: “And We (Allah*) sent down the Book (the Quran*) - - -”. The old and impertinent - but very pertinent - question is: Did an omniscient send down a third rate book? - third rate because it has so many mistakes and so much invalid/twisted logic that you cannot rely on anything you cannot control via other sources + not well written. The simple fact is: No god would make a book like this.

##122 16/64d: “(The Quran was sent down*) for the express purpose, that thou (Muhammad*) shouldst make clear to them things - - -”. How is it possible to make things clear by means of a book full of mistakes, contradictions, and invalid/false “proofs“? Or what is the value of making clear things which are wrong?

123 16/65a: “And Allah sends down rain from the skies - - -". The Quran even one place tells that Allah breaks the clouds to pieces (to make the raindrops - the exact opposite process of what really happens). But is it Allah or some other god - or nature - who sends it down to Earth? See 11/7a above. The Quran's claim here is wrong unless Islam proves the opposite - laughably wrong.

124 16/65c: “And Allah sends down rain from the skies, and gives therewith life to the earth after its death: verily in this is a Sign for those who listen.” See 16/65a+b just above. It is some sign to use an invalid proof. The Quran often talks about Signs which shall document or prove Allah. The sorry thing is that each and every one of them, with the possible exception of some taken from the Bible, are without any value as proof for a god, and not one single proves anything about the existence of Allah. The two most frequent reasons are that they in reality are just claims taken from thin air, or they build on statements which are not proved. See separate chapter in "1000+ Mistakes in the Quran" - http://www.1000mistakes.com about this.

125 16/66a: “And verily in cattle (too) will ye find an instructive Sign (because they produce milk*)”. The natural way for cattle to feed their babies is a sign for Allah, according to Muhammad. Well, is Allah involved, or is it something made by the nature? Of course it is easy to say it is from Allah - but a god who is unable to prove anything - anything at all - sooner or later loses credibility. It sounds more like bluffing. Was Muhammad just an intelligent cheater and deceiver who had found the same way to comfort and power like many other initiators of sects or religions? - there have been a number of them throughout the times, though most of them just with local success, f.x. in USA and Africa. Also see 11/7a above.

126 16/66d: "We (Allah*) produce, for your drink, milk - - -". See 11/7a above.

127 16/67a: "And from the fruit of the date-palm and the vine (other translation; grapes*), ye get out wholesome drink and food (wine - this was before alcohol was prohibited in Islam*) - - -". This surah is one of the last ones from Mecca, and in the old Mecca like in the rest of Arabia at that time sex and alcohol were "the two delicious things". But you bet that Muhammad little by little prohibited at least this "wholesome drink". Abrogated and contradicted by the verses against alcohol - f.x. 5/90: "Intoxicants and gambling - - - are an abomination - of Satan's handiwork - - -". (Did not Allah know this in 622 AD?)

128 16/68: “And thy Lord (Allah*) taught the Bee to build its cells in hills, on trees and in (man’s) habitations - - -”. The bee is at very least 50 million years old, and most likely more than 200 million years old (though not necessarily the honeybee). It has had plenty of time to develop ways of living and dwelling itself, just by adapting to nature. It is so incredibly easy to claim anything you see and anything that comes to your mind - claim it for the honor and credit of your real or invented god, as long as you shy away from proving anything, and your audience accepts your fast words - something that may be possible when your listeners are uneducated and naïve, or if they are in a religious fervor and/or strongly brainwashed. Not to mention if all these conditions are present - the most intense religious fanatics in Islam (and other religions) you find among the lower intelligent or not too educated ones, and among educated ones with a one-tracked mind - one-tracked by nature or nurture.

129 16/70a: "It is Allah who creates you (human*) - - -". See 11/7a above.

130 16/70c: "- - - Allah is All-Knowing - - -". Not if he made the Quran.

131 16/70d: "- - - Allah is - - - All-Powerful". Often claimed - never once in 1400 years unmistakably proved.

132 16/71b: “Allah has bestowed His gift of sustenance more freely on some of you than on others - - -“. Whether you are rich or poor depends on Allah’s decision - Muhammad's standard explanation for why some non-Muslims had a good life, whereas some Muslims a bad one. Also see 12/56a above.

133 16/71c: "- - - those more favored (rich because Allah has made them so*) are not going to throw back their gifts (from Allah*) to those whom their right hand possess, so as to be equal in that respect." Equality among human beings is not for Islam - it is to deny the favors of Allah.

134 16/71f: "- - - the favors of Allah - - -". There are lots and lots of claims about such favors in the Quran, but not one single real proof, neither there nor any other place. And as the Quran has so many mistakes, etc., that it is not from any god, how can we then rely on any point in it, included this one, without a proof? Also a bit similar to 11/7a above.

135 16/72a: “And Allah has made for you mates - - -”. To be a bit flippant: Some men and many women think their mate is not from a god, but from a devil. But at least: Let us see Islam’s proof for this being true - it is not proved it is an act of Allah.

136 16/72b: "- - - (Allah*) made for you - - - sons and daughters and grandchildren - - -". See 11/7a above. In addition: May be you have done a little yourself, too.

137 16/73a: "- - - such (other gods*) as have no power - - -". This may be true for many "gods". But for all? The Quran proves very eloquently that Allah is not the same god as Yahweh, and f.x. Yahweh may have power. As for made up ones - it has never and nowhere been proved that Allah does not belong to them.

138 16/74b: "- - - Allah knoweth - - -". Also this is a claim which never - never - and nowhere has been unmistakably proved. There only are words and claims for it. And all the mistakes in the Quran proves it is wrong - if Allah made that book.

139 16/74c: "- - - ye (people, non-Muslims*) know not". The fact is that a number of non-Muslims know that there are lots of things wrong in the Quran, whereas Muslims only believe it is correct.

140 16/75a: “Allah set forth the Parable (of two men: one) a slave (here aka "infidel") under the dominion of the other - - - and (the other) a man (= Muslim*) on whom We (Allah*) have bestowed goodly favors from Ourselves, and he spends thereof (freely), privately and publicly: are the two equal?” A rhetoric question with only one answer – of course "we" are better than those who are slaves under pagan gods. (Though it is an open question who really were/are blind slaves under their religion – the Pagans, People of the Book, or the Muslims? In intense and extreme sects the followers frequently are informal slaves of the leaders – not of the god(s) but of the leader(s)).

141 16/75c: "But most of them (people, non-Muslims*) understand not (that it is better to be well off under Allah, than slave under other gods*)". But Islam makes no secret of that all Muslims are slaves under Allah - whereas f.x. Yahweh does not demand that you are his slave. But Muslims are so used to this slavery that they do not think it over. And what is really their status if Allah is a made up god and they are slaves under the leaders' and the mullahs' imagined "fata morgana"? Also see 16/74c above.

142 16/76a: “Allah sets forth (another) Parable of two men: one of them (non-Muslim*) dumb, with no power of any sort; a wearisome burden is he to his master (Allah*) - - - is such a man equal with one (Muslim*) who commands justice, and is on a Straight Way?” If possible this strengthens the comments about 16/75a and 16/75b above.

This is one of the many points in the Quran telling that according to Islam's moral code non-Muslims are second rate or worse.

143 16/76b: "- - - on a Straight Way - - -". On the road leading to the Muslim Paradise - see 10/9f above. Does it mean anything that in the Bible the road to Heaven is the difficult road, whereas in the Quran it is the easy one? That it is easy, of course is more populist - - - but also this claims at least strongly indicates that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god.

144 16/77d: "- - - Allah hath power over all things". Often claimed - never unmistakably proved. Not once in 1400 years.

145 16/78a: "it is He (Allah*) Who brought you (people*) forth from the wombs of your mothers - - -". See 11/7a above.

#146 16/78b: “- - - He (Allah*) gave you hearing and sight and intelligence and affection - - -”. In that case Allah was an early riser - science has identified these traits hundreds of millions years ago - and a slow worker - as it took far more than 500 million years from early animals in the Ediacarian period some 600 million (635 - 542 million) years ago in late Pre-Cambric (or some 3,5 billion years or more if you recon from the very first traces of life) to produce human intelligence. But no one in Arabia in 630 AD had any chance to disclaim such a claim: Muhammad tells it - and a nice and reliable robber and rapist like him, of course spoke only the truth! (Sometimes Muslims tell you Muhammad was a man of his times - hard and brutal times - and no worse than other chieftains and war lords in Arabia. They may be right, but he definitely neither was any better - and he pretended (?) to represent a benevolent god. (It f.x. is impossible to compare him and Jesus - they are many worlds apart in teachings, ethics and morality - and not to mention in empathy)).

147 15/78c: "- - - ye (people*) may give thanks (to Allah)". What for? There is not documented he did anything at all - yes, not even that he exists or what he is if he exists, except that he is no god if he is behind the Quran.

148 16/80a: "It is Allah Who made your habitations homes of rest and quiet for you - - -(etc.*)". Quite similar to 11/7a above.

149 16/81a: “It is Allah Who made - - -". Allah has made everything according to Muhammad. But see 11/7a above - this one is similar.

150 16/81b: "- - - He (Allah*) created - - -". There is nowhere proved Allah created anything at all. There only are words and claims in a book full of other kinds of mistakes, and thus very unreliable. See 11/7a above and 21/56c below.

151 16/81d: "- - - of the hills He (Allah*) made some for your shelter - - -". We will guess no professor of geography or geology will agree to that some mountains are made for the purpose of giving humans shelter. This needs a strong proof to be believed. Besides: Was it Allah who made it? - or nature - or?

152 16/81e: ”He (Allah*) made you garments - - -”. Proofs for that Allah did this?

##153 16/81f: “He (Allah*) made you garments to protect you from the heath”. This is another point where one may wonder: Did the maker of the Quran know only the Middle East? – most garments in the world are made to protect humans from the cold. Any god had known this. Who made the Quran?

154 16/81i: "- - - His (Allah's*) favors to you - - -". There has never been documented one case of proved favor from Allah from the time of Muhammad and till this day - lots of claims, but not one clear case.

155 16/81j: "- - - that ye (Muslims*) may bow to His Will (in Islam)". What for? - there is nowhere any proof for his deeds, his superiority, or even for his very existence.

156 16/82c: “- - - thy (Muhammad’s*) duty is only to preach the Clear Message”. It is not possible to preach a clear message from a book full of mistakes, contradictions. etc.

157 16/83b: "They (non-Muslims*) recognize the favors of Allah - - -". That was and is just what they did/do not do - but at least some of them saw and see that something was/is very wrong.

158 16/86c: "Indeed ye (non-Muslims*) are liars". Some may be liars, some perhaps not - if they happen to believe in an existing god. But what about Muslims? If an ordinary Muslim tells something from the Quran which is wrong, but which he honestly believes is correct - is he a liar? - what if he knows it is wrong, but uses an al-Taqiyya (a lawful lie)? But what if he is a mullah or imam and should have controlled his information before he says anything? - and what about if he is a scholar? (In Sunni Islam where there is no hierarchy of priests, it is the religious scholars who make up the hierarchies, and who are the really educated and powerful ones within the religious community. Remember here that al-Taqiyya and its brothers Kitman and Hilah are lawful (and to defend or forward the religion even advised) in Islam.

But how much is true in a religion permitting (and more) both lies and worse?

159 16/87b: "- - - all their (non-Muslims'*) inventions (false gods*) shall leave them in the lurch". But where will the Muslims be left with a book and thus a religion not from any god? - (too much is wrong in the book to be from a god).

160 16/88c: "- - - they (non-Muslims*) used to spread mischief". This was in 622 AD when Muhammad met strong opposition from the leaders in Mecca. But what about later? - Muslims spread MUCH mischief to all around them, was not that mischief? Or is it only when Muslims are the victims it is mischief?

And what will the situation for the Muslims who made/make mischief be, if Allah does not exist or is part of the dark forces? - not to mention if there in addition is a real god somewhere? - one Muslims have been prohibited from looking for.

161 16/89e: “- - - We (Allah*) have sent down to thee (Muhammad*) the Book (the Quran*) - - -”. Yes, that is the big question for Islam. If Allah exists, and if he sent down the Quran, and if Muhammad retold everything correctly - f.x. did not “doctor” the surahs in Medina to get warriors or peace in his family - then Islam is a religion. If it is not true, what then? - and what happens in case to all Muslims if there is a next life run by a real god they have been prohibited to search for? - especially if they have lived according to the harsh, discriminating and bloody parts of the Quran, and the possible god is one teaching love and "do unto others like you want others do unto you"? Can a book full of mistakes, etc. be sent down by a god - not to say an omniscient one? Flatly no.

162 16/90a: "Allah commands justice - - -". Contradicted by f.x. the sharia law demanding strict punishment for a raped woman if she cannot show 4 male witnesses who have actually seen the rape (and who in many cases will be punished for not helping her) - perhaps the most horribly unjust and shameful law which exists on this whole Earth. And also contradicted by the immoral parts of the Quran's moral code.

163 16/90c: “- - - and He (Allah*) forbids shameful deeds - - -.” Strongly contradicted by f.x.:

2/230: “So if a husband divorces his wife (irrevocably), he cannot, after that, remarry her until after she has married another husband (and “fulfilled” that marriage*) and he has divorced her.” This situation is not often to meet, but it does happen. It is a most shameful deed in those cases to force the woman to prostitute herself to be permitted to go back to her husband.

Not to mention that 16/90 is contradicted by some of the “moral” rules in the Quran: Stealing/robbing, discrimination, enslavement, rape, murder, war, etc. – all “good and lawful” if you in some way can claim you do it in the name of the benevolent, good god Allah. Or the rule that a raped woman who cannot produce 4 male witnesses who have seen the actual act – and will be punished for not helping her in case – is to be strictly punished for illegal sex. Most likely the most unjust and shameful law we have ever heard about.

164 16/90d: "- - - shameful deeds - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses expressions like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral codes. Several of the "shameful" deeds are good deeds in normal moral codes and normal cultures, and the other way around.

165 16/90e: "- - - He (Allah*) forbids - - - injustice - - -". There are lots of injustice in Islam - most of it, but not all, directed against non-Muslims. Discrimination, suppression, loop-sided laws, treatment of females - free or captives - to mention some. Only Muslims are so used to that this is "good and lawful" that most of them honestly believe it is morally good and right.

##166 16/90h: "He (Allah*) instructs you (Muslims*) - - -". Is it Allah or someone else who instructs? The instructions are via Muhammad and his Quran, and Muhammad did not hide that he did use dishonesty - even the breaking of words/oaths (2/225a, 5/89a+b, 16/91e, 16/92a+b) - and there are facts like lies in the Quran (6/7a, 6/28c, 6/35b, 7/120a, 7/146b, 20/70a), and words like al-Taqiyya (the lawful lie), Kitman (the lawful half-truth), and "war is deceit". The question is even more relevant as the Quran is of such a quality, that no god was ever involved in the making or delivery of it, not to mention revered it in his own "home" as the "Mother of the Book" (13/39b, 43/4b+b, 85/21-22), but that one theory for the Quran's creation is that it is made by dark forces - perhaps by Allah if he belongs to those forces and just cheated Muhammad.

167 16/91a: "Fulfill the Covenant of Allah when ye have entered into it- - -". = Be good and obedient - included in going to war - when you have become a Muslim. But there is nowhere in the Quran stated if and when Allah made a covenant with the Muslims, or the contents of it.

168 16/91b: "Fulfill the Covenant of Allah when ye have entered into it- - -". There nowhere is proved that Allah entered such a covenant - not even many words telling about or explaining just that claimed event, and not one proof. Is this a "Boer-case", where some Boers claimed they made a covenant with Yahweh, but forgot to check if Yahweh took part in the covenant? (The Boers in reality made no covenant with Yahweh, but only made some promises to him - for a covenant one needs the acceptance of both/all involved parts.)

169 16/91g: "- - - indeed ye (Muslims*) have made Allah your surety - - -". What is this worth if he does not exist and in addition is not a god? - not to mention: What is it worth if he exists and belongs to the dark forces?

###170 16/92a: "Nor take your oaths to practice deception among yourselves - - -". Once more the special moral code on the Quran - most religions in this case say: "Nor take your oaths to practice deception." This wording tells morally weak Muslims (perhaps correctly?) that it may be ok to do so against non-Muslims - cfr. f.x. the reputation the expression "Arab salesmen" had and may be has among sailors. Sailors and tourists and some others are not from "among yourselves".

171 16/92f: "- - - on the Day of Judgment He (Allah*) will certainly make clear to you (non-Muslims*) (the truth of) that wherein (the Quran*) ye disagree". It is not possible even for a god to explain that wrong facts are right (but of course he can try to do what Muslims and Islam are trying to do - to "explain" them away or claim they are misunderstood, or that it is right even if it is wrong, and that science and others are wrong and the Quran right. Etc.).

####172 16/92g: "- - - on the Day of Judgment He (Allah*) will certainly make clear to you (non-Muslims*) (the truth of) that wherein (the Quran*) ye disagree". Not possible unless he exists. But beware that explaining away he can do even if he lives up to the moral code in the Quran. Not to mention his freedom to explain errors away if he exists, but belongs to the dark forces - a fact which makes Muslims' and Islam's explaining away of even obvious errors thought provoking, and this to at least the second power when it comes to dishonest explanations away meant for lay Muslims made by the Muslim clergy and scholars.

173 16/93b: “If Allah so willed, He could make you all one People - - -”. See 11/118b above. But why does he not do so? - this is the official goal for Islam - - - everybody under the Muslims - and this other way it takes millennia and millions of lives and immeasurable tragedy, all on behalf of a claimed benevolent god.

174 16/93c: "- - - He (Allah*) leaves straying whom he pleases - - -". Remember here that according to Hadiths, he decides 5 months before you are born whether or not you are to end in Hell - whether he wishes to leave you straying or not. Here also is a formidable difference compared to NT - Jesus/Yahweh leaves no-one straying if they can help it, f. ex: Luke 15/8-10 + 15/11-31 and Matt. 18/12-14 + 20/8-13.

175 16/95b: "Nor sell the Covenant of Allah for a miserable price - - -". Often this also is one of Muhammad's standard explanations why many did not believe in him: They wanted a good life on Earth, and therefore did not want to listen to him - like he claimed: They sold Paradise for a good life here - which was a miserable price to get for Paradise.

Another relevant fact: A covenant is an agreement between minimum two parts. There is nowhere in or outside the Quran proved that Allah "signed" this claimed covenant as a part. If he has not done so, there is no covenant, only promises from Muslims to - a hoped existing - Allah.

176 16/96b: "- - - what is with Allah will endure." There is nothing with Allah if he does not exist (and what is with him if he belongs to the dark forces, is an open question - he is no god if he is behind the Quran and all its errors, etc.

177 16/96c: "And We (Allah*) will certainly bestow - - - (on Muslims*) - - - their reward according to the best of their actions." If Allah exists and is a god - and if the Quran in case has told the full and only truth about him.

178 16/96d: "And We (Allah*) will certainly bestow - - - (on Muslims*) - - - their reward according to the best of their actions." One more difference between Yahweh and Allah: For Yahweh regretting sins and asking for forgiveness counts more than the good deeds. For Allah it is mainly the balance between good (sometimes "good") and bad deeds which counts. A plus for leaders on Earth who wanted action.

As for forgiving from Allah: See 2/187d above.

179 16/97a: "Whoever works righteousness - - - and have Faith, verily, to him (what about her?*) will We (Allah*) give a new Life (= Paradise*) - - -". If Allah exists and is a major god, and if the rest of the Quran is true.

180 16/97e: "- - - to him (the good Muslim*) will We (Allah*) give a new Life - - -". Again this interesting, but ever so cheap promise from a claimed god who never was able to prove he had the power neither of creation, nor of recreation - yes, not even prove his own existence or Muhammad's connection to a god.

181 16/97g: "- - - a life that is good and pure - - -". The life in paradise - but is life in the Quran's paradise really a good life? - or at least: Is it a good life for all? See 10/9f and you will find a life which is boring for very many, questionable for the male servants, even more so for houris who have to be sex toys for not always civilized men, and how good or bad for human women?

182 16/97i: "- - - the best of their actions". Remember here that the best of actions was to go on raids and war for Muhammad - mainly for riches, captives, extortion, and slaves - but some for revenge and later also for spreading Islam (most of Muhammad's armed incidents were for these causes).

183 16/98a: "- - - seek Allah's protection - - -". For what it is worth if he does not exist - not to mention if he exists, but is part of the dark forces (with all those errors in the Quran, he is not a god if he is behind that book)?

184 16/98b: "- - - Satan the Rejected One". Quite an ironic end of the verse if there is anything in the theory that the real maker of the Quran was Satan, dressed up like Gabriel to cheat Muhammad.

The claim also is ironic if Islam's own theory is correct: Allah is all-powerful. This means that Iblis cannot run Hell except if permitted by Allah. Allah would not permit a Hell unless he had a good reason. This means that Hell is part of Allah's all-including Plan, and thus that Iblis is not an enemy or a rejected one, but a co-worker of Allah. As Allah is all-powerful and also predestines everything, this (NB) according to Muslim scholars is the only possible explanation.

185 16/99a: "No authority has he (Satan*) over those who believe - - -". This can be horribly wrong if humans or Satan is the real maker of the Quran, which some ones think - and not 100% without a reason.

186 16/100a: "His (the Devil's*) authority is over those only, who take him as patron and who joins partners with Allah." According to Islam Christians joins partners (Jesus*) with Yahweh, whom the Quran and Islam (wrongly - fundamentally too different teachings) claim is identical with Allah. They thus have Jesus in addition to Yahweh, and the Catholics have the saints (in reality not divine, but goers-between between normal humans and the god) - are they under the Devil's authority? But what about the Muslims, if the Quran is a made up book?

187 16/101e: "- - - what He (Allah*) reveals - - -". No god has ever revealed something like the Quran - too many mistaken facet and other mistakes, etc.

188 16/101f: "Thou (Muhammad*) art but a forger - - -". They may have been right - all the mistakes, etc. indicates something bad. The same that most of the stories just are retold with some twists from old Arab folklore, etc.

189 16/101g: "- - - most of them (non-Muslims*) understand not". Perhaps that was exactly what at least some of them did.

190 16/102b: “- - - the Holy Spirit has brought the revelation - - -“. Muhammad Azad: “The Message of the Quran” tells that the Arab word “ruh al-qudus” (= the Holy Spirit) is used 3 times in the Quran (2/87, 5/110 – both connected to Jesus – and here), and that here it means the angel Gabriel. The Holy Spirit in Arab = Gabriel? That in case means that in 2/87 and 5/110 Jesus is strengthened with the angel Gabriel - a bit far from what the Bible tells. (It is likely Islam sets the Holy Spirit = Gabriel because the Quran tells that Gabriel brought large parts of the Quran (other parts came to him in dreams, by "inspiration", etc.), so that when it says that the Holy Spirit brought him verses, that must mean that the book is talking about Gabriel - not 100% logical to say the least of it. (But Muslims often are quick to go from "this may be so" to "this is so" and sometimes even to "this is a proof"). Also see 2/97. (There are texts in the Bible making this impossible - f.x. that the disciples of Jesus each got a part of the Spirit, whereas angels do not split into pieces. Besides the Bible very well knows the difference between angels and spirits. And not to forget: It is nowhere said in the Quran that Gabriel = the Holy Spirit.)

191 16/102c: (YA2141): "- - - the Holy Spirit - - -". YA's comment: = The title of the Angel Gabriel - - -". This is a claim you sometimes meet from Muslims. But no-one who ever read the Bible with an open mind, would ever get such an idea (and even the Quran does not say so) - the Holy Spirit clearly is something special in the Bible, and something much more and much more essential than even an arch angel. Besides the Bible knows very well the difference between a spirit and an angel - and in the Bible Gabriel is not even an ordinary angel, but an arch-angel. And: When the Holy Spirit came to the disciples of Jesus after he had left them, it split or splintered off something and took part in each of them. No angel could be split in 11 (Judas Iscariot was not there naturally) or more. Some spirits can.

192 16/102e: “- - - revelations from thy Lord (Allah*) - - -”. Once more: Can the revelations be from an omniscient god, when so many of them are wrong or contain mistakes? Out of the question!

193 16/102h: “- - - revelations from thy Lord (Allah*) in Truth, in order to strengthen those who believe - - -”. It is a strange way for a religion to strengthen its believers at least partly with wrong and/or not reliable “information”. There are far too many mistakes in the Quran for any sentient, educated being with fresh eyes, to believe it is reliable.

194 16/102j: “- - - revelations from thy Lord (Allah*) in Truth, in order to strengthen those who believe, and as a Guide - - - to Muslims”. It tells volumes about Islam, if they use a book full of mistakes + discrimination, hate and war against non-Muslims as a guide for their believers - the Muslims. And even more if the religion/religious leaders try to “explain” away even obvious mistakes in it, instead of finding out what is true and what not.

195 16/102m: "(The Quran is) Glad Tidings to Muslims". Please read the Quran and look for the realities behind the big and glossy words. How glad tiding is it even to Muslims (not to mention to Muslim women)? And to get a war religion into the world so absolutely was no glad tidings to the rest of the world - this even more so as the entire religion builds on a book with no connection to a god.

196 16/103c: "- - - what they (non-Muslim contemporaries of Muhammad*) say, 'It is a man who teaches him (Muhammad*) - - -". See 16/101d above.

197 16/103d: “It is a man that teaches him (Muhammad*)". There was a persistent rumor that Muhammad had a learned accomplice who helped him with finding out what to say. It is likely it is wrong - the Quran is not the work of a learned man, not even one of that time. (Not to mention the work of a god.)


198 16/103e: “’It is a man that teaches him (Muhammad*)’. (But*) The tongue of him they point to (a learned foreigner*) is notably foreign, while this is Arabic, pure and clear”. The proof is invalid (even if the teacher was a foreigner, Muhammad's retelling would depend on Muhammad's choice of words), and also because the language is not “pure and clean” - Muhammad might have gotten the imported words (100+) from that foreigner. Also see 16/103f just below.

199 16/104c: "- - - Allah will not guide them (non-Muslims*) - - -". It is difficult to guide anyone with a guide-book like the Quran - lots of mistakes and partly deplorable moral code. Also he cannot guide if he does not exist.

200 16/105c: "- - - (non-Muslims*) forge falsehood - - -". Muhammad claimed Jews and Christians had falsified the Bible - a never documented claim which later is proved wrong both by science and by Islam (by being unable to find any proved falsification). Besides; what if they happen to believe in a real religion (if such one exists) - and especially what if Islam in addition is a made up religion?

Islam's rules for the use of dishonesty - al-Taqiyya, Kitman, Hilah, disused words/promises/oaths, deceit, etc. - make this slander and backbiting quite an irony.

201 16/105e: "It is they who believe not in the Signs of Allah, that forge falsehood: it is they who lie!." Do not trust non-Muslims - they are false and unreliable. Psychologically this is a much used way to make distance between "us" and "them". And sometimes a start on the production of enmity between "us" and "them".

But it is some irony in the fact that this claim comes from the only one of the big religions which accepts the use of dishonesty as a working tool.

202 16/105f: "- - - it is they (non-Muslims - here Jews and Christians most likely*) who lie!" What kind of omniscient god accuses people of lying, and then it all the same is later proved they told the truth (see 16/105c above)? - and what kind of god throws around lots of such accusations without even trying to produce proof? Or was it not a god who did this?

#######Another question: How harsh must the words be before Muslims can claim discrimination against them, when words like these against others, are the official point of view of Islam and Muslims?

203 16/106a: "Anyone who, after accepting faith in Allah, utters Unbelief (= doubt or wish to leave Islam*) - - - on them is Wrath from Allah - - -". It is prohibited not only to leave Islam (though many do so nowadays - f.x. 75% of all who become Muslims in adult age, leave the religion within 3 years. (What is it they learn inside which makes them leave in spite of the problems and even danger some places, it means to leave Islam?)), but even to doubt the teachings - full of mistaken facts or not. Here it is indicated that the punishment is for Allah - remember this is in 622 AD and Muhammad still is weak - it changed later. But you bet this verse counts for the ones who wish to "help" Allah with the punishment.

204 16/107a: "This (that many would not believe Muhammad*) because they love the life of this world better than the Hereafter (Paradise*) - - -". This is a claim you meet many places in the Quran; the reason why the skeptics did not believe in Muhammad was that they were bad people, not that they saw things were wrong with his teaching or that they really believed in another god (or gods). Claiming that they were low quality, psychologically was a much better explanation to give his - Muhammad's - followers and others, instead of telling the reality.

205 16/107b: "- - - Allah will not guide those who reject Faith". But is he able to guide at all?

There has been no proof for even his existence.

There has been no proof for his claimed power.

There has been no proof for that he ever guided anyone.

There has been no proof for his connection to Muhammad.

There has been no proof for his benevolence - on the contrary he is a god of war and discrimination.

There are solid proofs for that he has no connection to the Quran - no god would deliver that quality "guide-book".

Or if he is behind the Quran, it is a solid proof for that he is no god - too much is wrong in that book.

There are solid proofs for lots of mistakes in the Quran = no reliable "guide-book".

The Quran's partly immoral moral code is a solid proof for that no good or benevolent god is involved.

206 16/108a: "Those are they whose hearts, ears, and eyes Allah has sealed up (so they cannot find the way to the god*) - - -". Christians used to the compassion in NT and the god Yahweh and his "new covenant" they meet there, sometimes have problems believing they see correctly the first time they read sentences like this - a god denying humans even the possibility to find back to "the narrow road" and to the god? Allah and Yahweh the same god? No is not the word - you need something much stronger. Too big differences on most of the fundamental points.

207 16/108b: "- - - they (non-Muslims*) take no heed." But that was just what at least some of them did; they saw that things was wrong in Muhammad's new religion, and reacted accordingly.

208 16/109a: “Without doubt - - -.” Because of all the mistakes, etc. in the Quran, there is real reason for doubt about the hereafter – and even more so about if it really is like described in the Quran. Because of this – and because of all the other mistakes in the Quran – there is real reason for doubt about who will perish.

209 16/109c: “Without doubt, in the Hereafter they (non-Muslims*) will perish.” At least for the believers in Yahweh, the Bible strongly contradicts this. And as the Quran is full of errors, also those give reason for doubt about anything in the book - when you know many things in the book are wrong, also other things you know less about may be wrong. Besides, if there is no god behind the Quran, there is no god who can judge you according to the Quran's somewhat special rules.

210 16/110e: "- - - patiently persevere - - -". An expression used time and again and again in the Quran: Persevere and sooner or later the "enemy" tires and you have won. The Quran so often has been right on this, that no non-Muslim should ever forget this, or the fact that Islam is a war religion (just read the surahs from Medina if you do not believe this fact).

211 16/111b: "- - - every soul will be recompensed (fully) for all its actions - - -". One central difference between Islam and especially NT: NT stresses divine love and forgiving (though acts count), the Quran stresses acts (though forgiving counts - - - if Allah can forgive in spite of his predestined Plan which cannot be changed.).

Besides this quote sounds ominous if it is not the war god Allah who is waiting at "the other side".

212 16/111c: "- - - none will be unjustly dealt with". Not if Allah exists, the Quran is from him, and it in addition tells the plain and full truth only. With one reservation: What is the definition for "unjustly" in the Quran and Islam? - there are rules among the most unjust you are able to find in any culture.

One often forgotten alternative: If Allah is from the dark forces, one may be unjustly dealt with. Or justly if one has lived by the harsher parts of the Quran and by the harsher parts its moral code, etc.

213 16/112-113: This is called a parable, but as it is not related to anything, it is not a parable, but a story. That is to say, if you relate it to Muhammad's situation and his followers' need for a pep-talk to keep the spirits not too low, it may be a parable - like Muhammad made all stories about claimed and real(?) prophets parables and parallels to his own situation at the times when he told the tales. This to "prove" that his situation was normal for prophets, and thus he was a normal prophet.

214 16/114a: "So eat of the sustenance which Allah had provided - - -". Allah has made everything, included your food, according to the Quran - but see 11/7a above.

215 16/115a: “He (Allah*) has only forbidden you dead meat, and blood, and the flesh of swine, and any (food) over which the name of other than Allah has been invoked”. Wrong. Hadiths – f.x. Al-Bukhari and Muslim – are very clear on the fact that also meat from donkey is forbidden. (This is one of the cases where Hadiths abrogate the Quran. Perhaps Allah forgot that donkey meat was forbidden in the Mother Book, or Muhammad forgot to mention it?)

216 16/116a: "But say not - for any false thing that your tongues may put forth (= lies*) 'This is lawful, and this is forbidden', so as to ascribe false things to Allah." But this was just what the Muslims did when they made up literally hundreds of thousands of Hadiths. They simply made up Hadiths fitting their wishes - often for political reasons - to give their words more credibility and "weight". Which resulted in big problems for later collectors of Hadiths: Which were true and which not? Which resulted in the situation today: Hadiths hailed by Islam even though many of them obviously are untrue. (There are Muslims using only the Quran, as they have discovered that the Hadiths are not reliable, even though men like Al-Bukhari and Muslim surely did their very best, at least mostly, but they made the mistake not to check if the stories could be true, but instead only checked if the chain of narrators could be so - and if somebody made up a Hadith, it was as easy to make up a chain of narrators).

217 16/116c: "For those who ascribe false things to Allah will never prosper". If the Quran is a made up book, the only one ascribing false things to Allah, was Muhammad.

218 16/119c: "- - - thy (Muslims') Lord (Allah*) - - - is - - - Most Merciful". Take a look at the surahs from Medina + some of the harsher parts of the moral code and the unjust of the sharia laws and see if you agree.

219 16/120f: "- - - (Abraham was*) true in Faith (Islam*) - - -". It is very good reason for doubt when it comes to Abraham believing in Islam some 2500 years before Muhammad. Neither science not Islam has found any trace from a religion like Islam older than 610 AD when Muhammad started his mission. Also: The Bible claims Abraham believed in Yahweh.

220 16/121f: "- - - a Straight Way", A standard name in the Quran for the claimed road to the Quran's and Islam's paradise - see 10/9f above.

221 16/122b: "- - - he (Abraham*) will be in the ranks of the Righteous". After Muhammad, Abraham is the most central of the prophets in Islam. Moses may be number three. (Jesus number 3 or 4). Abraham is mentioned in Hadiths to live in the 7. Heaven (it is not explained how he ended there before the Day of Doom - like the others Muhammad met on his trip through the heavens), where of course also Muhammad will end - and all his women and children if they qualified for that high a heaven. Yes, and plus his houris - we wonder how it was decided which heaven the houris qualified for.)

222 16/122c: "- - - (Abraham was*) Righteous - - -". If he is correctly described in the Bible, he mostly was. But beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is not in accordance with normal codes of moral, but with its own partly immoral one. (The Quran too often is far away from "do onto others like you want others do onto you".

223 16/123a: “So We (Allah*) has taught thee (Muhammad/Muslims*) the inspired messages (the Quran*) - - -“. No omniscient god has taught anyone so much mistakes, invalid logic, invalid signs, invalid proofs, like what you find in the Quran.

224 16/123d: "- - - Abraham the True in Faith - - -". He is described like that - but his faith hardly was Islam. One thing is that it is a contradiction to the Bible, and according to normal rules for evaluating sources, the Bible is more reliable. But the main thing is that no trace of Islam has been found older than 610 AD, and Abraham lived - if he lived - ca. 1800 - 2000 BC.>/p>

225 16/124b: "The Sabbath was only made (strict) for those who disagreed - - -." The Quran here indicates that the day of rest once a week is a punishment for Jews and Christians, and pretends to quote the Law of Moses as a proof for this. But there is nowhere in the Bible included the Laws of Moses and the complete books of Moses where it is indicated that the day of rest is a punishment. It also nowhere in the Bible is indicated that the Sabbath - the day of rest - was initiated by the Laws of Moses, like you may meet Muslims telling you (for both claims see f.x. YA2159). Actually as far as we have read, in the old times with much hard physical work, the body needed some rest to be able to do its best. But of course if a leader thought days of rest were wasted time, it might have been tempting to say: "Pray your Friday Prayer and go on working" - - - and then tell his followers how lucky they were who did not have to take a break.

But one funny thing here is that when the Muslims claim this is from the Law of Moses, they quote nothing from that law to prove it (there is nothing there which says this), but instead quotes from the Quran (f.x. 2/74). You meet this technique sometimes from Muslim scholars who are teaching lay Muslims - YA is meant for lay Muslims and a little up. Honesty?

226 16/125b: "Invite (all) to the Way of thy Lord (Allah*) with wisdom and beautiful preaching (etc.)- - -". But not one word is said here about honesty, refraining from al-Taqiyya (the lawful lie), Kitman (the lawful half-truth), etc. Strictly speaking al-Taqiyya and Kitman, etc. is advised to use "if necessary" in cases of defending or forwarding the religion and permitted in a number of other wide cases.

227 16/125c: “- - - the Way of thy Lord (Allah*) - - -“. The Quran does not represent the way of an omniscient god – and not a good one if there all the same is one of little knowledge somewhere behind the Quran: Too many mistakes, etc. and too much inhumanity.

228 16/125d: “Invite (all) to the Way of thy Lord (Allah*) with wisdom and beautiful preaching; and argue with them in ways that are best and most gracious - - -.” Little by little – or not so little – Muhammad’s tone changed from shortly after this (this is one of the very last surahs from Mecca – if not the last full one, as it was told only months before Muhammad fled to Yathrib/Medina). This verse is contradicted and often “killed” by at least these verses: 2/191, 2/193, 3/28, 3/85, 3/148, 4/81, 4/90, 5/33, 5/72, 5/73, 8/12, 8/38-39 (the warning), 8/39, 8/60, 9/3, 9/5, 9/14, 9/23, 9/29, 9/33, 9/73, 9/123, 25/36, 25/52, 33/61, 33/73, 35/36, 47/4, 66/9. This includes many advising or permitting political, social, economical, etc. compulsion (with the sword in the background if you protest) – we mention a few here: 3/28, 3/85, 3/148, 4/81, 5/72, 5/73, 9/23, 14/7, 15/3, 33/73, 35/36. They are all quoted under 2/256. (At least 29 contradictions).

229 16/125e: "- - - wisdom - - -". There is some sly and good psychology and not a little understanding of human nature in the Quran. But for that the preachers should get facts from other sources - too much is wrong in the Quran.

230 16/125f: "- - - beautiful preaching - - -". This is not necessarily honest preaching, but honest preaching is not demanded from Islam - f.x. al-Taqiyya (the lawful lie) and Kitman (the lawful half-truth) and worse are fully permitted when defending or spreading the religion.

231 16/125h: "- - - for thy (people's) Lord (Allah*) knoweth best, who strayed from His Path, and who received guidance". See 2/233h above.

232 16/126: “And if ye do catch them out, catch them out no worse than they catch you out: but if ye show patience that is indeed the best (course) for those who are patient.” Still the peaceful Mecca mode – a large percentage of relevant, not religious scientists #####agree to that a possible explanation for the hateful and bloody religion Islam changed to over a few years, is that Muhammad over those few years was morally destroyed by his new-found power. It is far from unusual that power destroys a person; “power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely” – and Muhammad gained absolute and total power. This verse is contradicted and often “killed” by at least these verses: 2/191, 2/193, 3/28, 3/85, 3/148, 4/81, 4/90, 5/33, 5/72, 5/73, 8/12, 8/38-39 (the warning), 8/39, 8/60, 9/3, 9/5, 9/14, 9/23, 9/29, 9/33, 9/73, 9/123, 25/36, 25/52, 33/61, 33/73, 35/36, 47/4, 66/9. This includes many advising or permitting political, social, economical, etc. compulsion (with the sword in the background if you protest) – we mention a few here: 3/28, 3/85, 3/148, 4/81, 5/72, 5/73, 9/23, 14/7, 15/3, 33/73, 35/36. They are all quoted under 2/256. (At least 29 contradictions).

233 16/127a: “And do thou (Muhammad*) be patient, for thou patience is but from Allah - - -". Absolutely everything positive is from Allah. This one is rather similar to 11/7a above.

234 16/127c: "- - - nor grieve over them (the lost ones*) - - -". Guess if this is different from NT! Yahweh and Allah the same god? You bet not! - the fundamental thinking is too different.

235 16/128b: "For Allah is with those who restrain themselves - - -." One of the better sentences in the Quran - but sometimes "forgotten" by Muslims and by terrorists. And by Muhammad and his warriors/raiders.

3246 + 235 = 3481 remarks.


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